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    Default Does a Shoplifting Trespass Ban Cover Stores in All States

    My question involves criminal law for the state of: nevada. I was apprehended for shoplifting at macys in las vegas nv. i took $25 worth of merchandise and was stopped as soon as i walked out of the door. a lady loss prevention officer approached me and showed her badge and told me i needed to come with her. I cooperated with her immediately as i knew a was caught. I was placed in handcuffs and escorted back to the loss prevention office where she took my ID and personal information. I signed 3 pieces of paper, a admission statement, a civil demand notice and a trespass notice. I also was banned from the mall where this took place. I know i was wrong and made a stupid mistake so please no lectures, i am so embarrassed already. Ive never done anything like this before and is completely out of character but never the less im guilty and and ready to face the consequences of my actions. Thankfully there were no police involved and i was released with the civil demand for $250 plus the price of what i stole so $275 total which i intend to pay fully ASAP. Ive been researching the consequences of shoplifting ever since this happened and I have a few questions i hope someone can answer. I was banned for 1 year from all macys but this incident didnt take place anywhere near where i live, if i go to and purchase anything at another macys will they find out that i'm trespassing? and How? I was also banned from the mall for a year and the paper says i could be arrested if i come back and they may also bring charges against me under nevada civil law. has anyone ever heard of civil penalties for trespassing? BTW i have no intention of returning i was just curious. Also when loss prevention was typing in my mailing address which is a po box, my physical address came up on her computer as she was trying to verify my info. how is that even possible ive never been in trouble before. and another thing, i had to give my SS# what is that used for? and last does anybody know if macys enters names of shoplifters in the retail theft database? As crazy as this might sound im glad i was caught and deserve my punishment, i will never do anything like this again.
    thanks in advance for any info you can give me.

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    Default Re: Does a Shoplifting Trespass Ban Cover Stores in All States

    All Macy's means just that. All Macy's. Any state. Yes you can be arrested if store personnel find you in their store again. That's criminal trespass. They can also sue you for consequential damages in a civil action, though I suspect that's unlikely if you merely just enter the store. Computer databases are marvelous things. They most likely have your information from various locations, anything from customer credit accounts to public government records. The SS# and DOB are often used in background checks to verify identity. Whether Macy's reports to NRTD is a closely held secret, but you'd have to suspect they do. Kiss off any retail jobs in the next seven years.

    What should you do:

    1. Stay out of ALL Macy's and that mall in particular.
    2. Stop stealing things.
    3. Consider whether or not you should pay the civil demand.

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    Default Re: Does a Shoplifting Trespass Ban Cover Stores in All States

    Thank you for your response flyingron, what do you mean consider whether or not to pay the civil demand? I was told by loss prevention that if I didn't I would be taken to court and sued for damages.
    Is this true, or do I not have to pay it? The way I was looking it is I was very lucky that the police were not involved and I just got a civil demand so maybe I should pay the penalty and be done with it.

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    Default Re: Does a Shoplifting Trespass Ban Cover Stores in All States

    Yes, they can sue you if you don't pay. There are differing opinions on whether that will happen or not. Of course, if they do take you to court, it will cost you more than if you just pay it.

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    sounds like its best just to pay the demand. after all i did confess in writing to shoplifting. so if i take my chances going to court i'm sure the outcome would be a whole lot worse.

    I just read that macys among other retailers use facial recognition software, can anyone confirm this? i've read if you've been caught shoplifting at macys and if you return to any one of their stores their cameras will immediately recognize you as soon as you walk in the door. is this how they banned persons get caught trespassing?

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