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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Landlord Removed a Tenant's Property Before the Tenancy Was Over

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    So the fact that my apartment was locked upon my arrival and the only other people with keys are the apartment managers means little? Or that I gave them my notice but now they deny that?

    Are you telling me the complex can simply lie and I can do nothing about it?
    when you are the plaintiff you must prove your case. So, you say; you went into my apartment. They say; no we didn't. They win because you have not proven your case. So, how do you prove your claim? How do you prove they are lying?

    So, what do you have to prove your case?


    So the door was locked. That suggests somebody has a key. Is the landlord the only one other than you with a key? I don't know.

    maybe your apartment was broken into and nobody realized it.

    again, you have to prove your claim and nothing so far proves anything other than you are missing some stuff.


    another thought; how are you certain you locked the door when you left? After all you were packing until 4am. You must have been dog tired. Maybe you forgot to lock the door.

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    Default Re: Landlord Removed a Tenant's Property Before the Tenancy Was Over

    I am 100 % certain I locked the door. I am the only key holder. I know for a fact I locked the door as I checked as I left.

    Also I am a police officer and have investigated my fair share of burglaries. I'm going to request a copy of the files they keep on my apartment.

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    Default Re: Landlord Removed a Tenant's Property Before the Tenancy Was Over

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    I am 100 % certain I locked the door. I am the only key holder. I know for a fact I locked the door as I checked as I left.

    Also I am a police officer and have investigated my fair share of burglaries. I'm going to request a copy of the files they keep on my apartment.
    Wait, you're a police officer who has investigated his fair share of burglaries, and yet you come on to a law forum with questions on how small claims court proceedings go?

    Something's not right here...

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    Default Re: Landlord Removed a Tenant's Property Before the Tenancy Was Over

    I would have to agree with ya Pringle.

    Of course, being a cop kc136 knows the management has absolutely no obligation to provide "the file" on his apartment or anything else without a warrant or subpoena.

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    Default Re: Landlord Removed a Tenant's Property Before the Tenancy Was Over

    You realize there's a big difference between criminal and civil law right? I know very little about civil, hence the questions.

    Also, I spoke to management, who showed me their files upon request (stupid me for asking) and they had my notice to vacate on file...weird.

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    Default Re: Landlord Removed a Tenant's Property Before the Tenancy Was Over

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    You realize there's a big difference between criminal and civil law right? I know very little about civil, hence the questions.

    Also, I spoke to management, who showed me their files upon request (stupid me for asking) and they had my notice to vacate on file...weird.
    so they have your notice.....and that furthers the possible civil and possible criminal issue how?

    Unless you have something to show management entered your apartment, all the suspicion in the world will not win your case.

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    Default Re: Landlord Removed a Tenant's Property Before the Tenancy Was Over

    You do understand the fluidity of reality correct? It's now obvious to me that there is very little I can do because management has either been very dishonest with me or that they employ a thief in the maintenance department.

    However that much was not clear before I spoke with them today. Your advice has been appreciated, although your condescending tone and patronizing attitude has not.

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    Default Re: Landlord Removed a Tenant's Property Before the Tenancy Was Over

    The odds seem reasonably high that somebody from the apartment complex assumed that you had abandoned the unit and cleaned it out, either without authorization from the main office or because somebody (who now realizes that they made a mistake) jumped the gun. But the question remains, what can you prove?

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    Exactly. I have no hope of proving it. It's a sad reality.

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