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    Default Ticket for Leaving a Vehicle Unattended at an Airport

    My question involves a traffic citation from the state of: I was being picked up from the airport by my parents. My mom came in to greet me while my dad waited outside next to the car. An officer asked if his passenger was here yet and my dad said "Yes, she's right there." as I walked out so the officer said "alright that fine just pull your car up a bit" and he did. So after we told my mom to stay outside next to the car while my dad went to go pick up my luggage.
    As we were walking in he said something to us that we did not hear quite well. He had to have been at lease 20 feet away in a busy parking garage. I assumed he'd said something like don't pass with cars around or something so my dad and I yelled back okay and went on it. Later we come out to see this police officer handing my mom a ticket. My dad started asking him why he was giving us a ticket, saying he didn't know why he was getting a ticket. Another officer told us it was okay for us to park there. But this officer was like a clam and he was straight up rude, he didn't say anything. At some point he said something about telling us to move but he said it in probably two words. We didn't remember hearing anything like that. I concluded that it was probably when he yelled something to us from that distance. And when he told my mom to move it I was walking out at that moment. It is okay to park in that area if you are picking up a passenger. But not only did he give us a ticket that not even for a solid reason he gave us a wrong ticket. The ticket says "Unattended vehicle" At no point was out car unattended. You could look in the CCTV and see that for a fact! Also after he rudely gave us our ticket, my dad followed him to ask why because he still hadn't given us any legit answer.
    That is also when the police officer stated " Sir, you better leave or else i'm going to arrest you for disturbing the peace". Now correct me if i'm wrong but the definition of disturbing the peace law is that a person is doing something threatening. My dad was doing none of that. He wasn't even close. He was asking why he was getting a ticket because the police officer just completely ignored us. He never yelled, threatened, or bothered anyone else except the police officer to ask why.
    If not only that, but he didn't give any other car around us a ticket. There were many cars in front and all behind us in the same spot doing the same thing but he only gave us a ticket.
    I'm not looking to get back my money or whatever but what makes me angry is that there are people like this "protecting" us. He was rude, did not treat us fairly, gave us a "Unattended Vehicle" ticket when it was never unattended and he said something about not being able to park there, not this unattended vehicle hes trying to give us (I mean at least give us the right ticket). Then threatened to arrest my dad on no solid ground for wanting to know why he was getting a ticket like anyone else would. I just want for people like this, people who seem to only do their job to get money instead of knowing the law to protect the innocent to learn that's not okay. I don't want him to be fired but if he's not gonna take time to learn the law a give people the right punishment and threaten people for the right reason, then he doesn't deserve that job. Is there any way I could argue against this police officer? Sorry about this lengthy post, I just feel very strongly about this. Any additional questions I'd be happy to answer with open honesty because i'm not looking to get rid of this ticket, i'm just looking to make sure i'm not being wronged for no reason.

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    Default Re: A Police Officer Gave My Dad a Ticket and Threaten to Arrest Him for No Solid Rea

    If the vehicle was attended, then it should have been moved and not left parked illegally.

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    Attended, means someone sitting in the driver's seat, with the keys, ready to move the car if instructed to do so. Was that the case? That doesn't sound like what happened here.

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    You did not include the city and state where this happened, despite the site asking for at least the state when you put in your post. The reason that it matters is that whether the ticket was good depends on exactly what the law says that the officer cited your father for violating. In a lot airports the pick up lanes are meant to be used just for stopping long enough to get the passenger in the car. Having the car sit while people go into the airport, wait and retrieve bags, etc., is too long and you get ticketed for that. Without keeping the flow of cars moving those pick up lanes would get quickly congested and cause traffic problems. But the details matter and we don’t have all the facts here. As a result, I cannot say if there is any good basis for challenging the ticket. Note that challenging the ticket likely won’t have much effect on the officer. He won’t care whether the ticket is challenged or not.

    It’s unfortunate the cop was rude. I can see why that would anger you. But I can tell you that working the airport pick up lanes gets frustrating for the officers. They end up with people arguing and giving them a hard time all through the shift. It is not hard for me to see why some cops get very curt and even rude after dealing with that all day. I’m not saying it’s right; but it might help you to understand where the officer is coming from, too. You may complain about it to the department for which the officer works if you like.

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    I have no problem with the cop being rude. When the attendant first spoke to your father and told him to pull the car forward it was based on the fact his passenger (you) had just walked out of the terminal and the attendants presumption surely was you would get in the car and leave.

    Your father then proved the attendants presumption incorrect by leaving the car there and going back into the terminal. What the attendant was likely telling your father (who was apparently to important to actually walk over and find out what was being said) was that he could not leave the car there. I like to think he added; if you do I'll call the cops to issue you a ticket after which your father said; ok

    as far as disturbing the peace; not only have you not provided the state so the specific law cannot be researched, you are incorrect in your assumption.

    You don't argue tickets an the side of the road. We spend billions of dollars annually to provide a quiet warm place to argue them; tell dad to utilize those buildings. They call them courthouses.

    and since your father received the ticket and the cop threatened your father with arrest, this doesn't involve your money and you have no standing to file a complaint about your father's situation.

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    Default Re: A Police Officer Gave My Dad a Ticket and Threaten to Arrest Him for No Solid Rea

    He's lucky. Around here we have a tow truck parked at the end of the terminal ready. If the driver steps away from his car, it's gone.

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    Default Re: A Police Officer Gave My Dad a Ticket and Threaten to Arrest Him for No Solid Rea

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    If the vehicle was attended, then it should have been moved and not left parked illegally.
    The vehicle was attended. My dad and I went in but my mom waited outside. When my mom said she'd move it right now because I was walking out with all my luggage then but the officer said no so loudly she was too scared to say anything to him afterwards as he wrote her the ticket after she said she'd move.

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    Default Re: Ticket for Leaving a Vehicle Unattended at an Airport

    So when he started to ticket the car she then decided to enter and move it and he told her it was too late. Perfectly logical. It is not a parking space.

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    Default Re: A Police Officer Gave My Dad a Ticket and Threaten to Arrest Him for No Solid Rea

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    You did not include the city and state where this happened, despite the site asking for at least the state when you put in your post. The reason that it matters is that whether the ticket was good depends on exactly what the law says that the officer cited your father for violating. In a lot airports the pick up lanes are meant to be used just for stopping long enough to get the passenger in the car. Having the car sit while people go into the airport, wait and retrieve bags, etc., is too long and you get ticketed for that. Without keeping the flow of cars moving those pick up lanes would get quickly congested and cause traffic problems. But the details matter and we don’t have all the facts here. As a result, I cannot say if there is any good basis for challenging the ticket. Note that challenging the ticket likely won’t have much effect on the officer. He won’t care whether the ticket is challenged or not.

    It’s unfortunate the cop was rude. I can see why that would anger you. But I can tell you that working the airport pick up lanes gets frustrating for the officers. They end up with people arguing and giving them a hard time all through the shift. It is not hard for me to see why some cops get very curt and even rude after dealing with that all day. I’m not saying it’s right; but it might help you to understand where the officer is coming from, too. You may complain about it to the department for which the officer works if you like.
    The city and state was Birmingham, AL. We were not affecting the flow of traffic. This is an area where we and many other people have always parked to pike up their passenger. The flow of traffic was continuing on just fine in the lane next to us where it was suppose to. The lane we were in had many cars in front of and behind doing the same thing as us but he only have us the ticket.
    Also I understand if that officer's had a tough day, I know a lot goes on in his job but how hard would it been to have explained why we got a ticket? Like he mumbled two words that I had to think about and assume that was why we were getting the ticket. We asked him several times as he was writing out ticket but he wouldn't say anything else. My parents still don't even completely understand why we got the ticket because both of them weren't born here and they're not great at English.

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    The city and state was Birmingham, AL. We were not affecting the flow of traffic. This is an area where we and many other people have always parked to pike up their passenger. The flow of traffic was continuing on just fine in the lane next to us where it was suppose to. The lane we were in had many cars in front of and behind doing the same thing as us but he only have us the ticket.
    Also I understand if that officer's had a tough day, I know a lot goes on in his job but how hard would it been to have explained why we got a ticket? Like he mumbled two words that I had to think about and assume that was why we were getting the ticket. We asked him several times as he was writing out ticket but he wouldn't say anything else. My parents still don't even completely understand why we got the ticket because both of them weren't born here and they're not great at English.
    Its been explained to you every way possible, therefore I do not see how we can do anything more for you.

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