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    Default What Are the Responsibilities of a HOA President

    My question involves a condominium located in the State of: MA

    Is there a good definition out there of what the rights, responsibilities and purview is of a condominium president/manager in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts?

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    Default Re: Rights and Responsibilities of the Condo (Hoa) President

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    My question involves a condominium located in the State of: MA

    Is there a good definition out there of what the rights, responsibilities and purview is of a condominium president/manager in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts?
    Yes.

    It's called Covenants, Conditions, and Restrictions (CC&Rs), a copy of which you got, or should have got, when you bought your home. There may also be a set of by-laws with it.

    After you get through reading and understanding all that you are welcome to study the MA condominium statute:

    https://malegislature.gov/Laws/Gener...eI/Chapter183a

    If you want any more help here, you'll need to explain what this president/manager is doing or not doing that riles you.

    And if this has anything to do with your other post you should have just added this question to it.

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    Default Re: Rights and Responsibilities of the Condo (Hoa) President

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    Yes.

    It's called Covenants, Conditions, and Restrictions (CC&Rs), a copy of which you got, or should have got, when you bought your home. There may also be a set of by-laws with it.

    After you get through reading and understanding all that you are welcome to study the MA condominium statute:

    https://malegislature.gov/Laws/Gener...eI/Chapter183a

    If you want any more help here, you'll need to explain what this president/manager is doing or not doing that riles you.

    And if this has anything to do with your other post you should have just added this question to it.
    Thanks.

    I have read both the condo docs you mention - perhaps I ought to re-read them as my reading may have been too cursory - as well as the law you cite - and yes, perhaps I ought to re-read that too. However, I must say that I failed to see anything in it that I could see as the definition I am asking for. I must say that I did some general searches on the subject and in some jurisdictions it seems to be defined quite well. Perhaps here in MA too - and I just overlooked it.

    As with our current president - can't say there is any one thing that riles me and there is nothing I have against her on a personal level but I just don't think she is qualified. And I hate saying things like this, and I am not saying this lightly here but I do tend to believe that someone who fails at basic math (e.g., unable to calculate, say, a proportional share of payment to be shared between 3 units as 30%, 42% and 28%) or believes that a statement in an email message is equivalent to a binding contract or by all indications refuses to even read relevant legal documents does not quite cut it for the job. And if I had some legal document to back this assertion up that may help. I mean something definitive enough where it would say "you ought to do X" - and she clearly is not doing X, not even close.

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    Default Re: Rights and Responsibilities of the Condo (Hoa) President

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    As with our current president - can't say there is any one thing that riles me and there is nothing I have against her on a personal level but I just don't think she is qualified. And I hate saying things like this, and I am not saying this lightly here but I do tend to believe that someone who fails at basic math (e.g., unable to calculate, say, a proportional share of payment to be shared between 3 units as 30%, 42% and 28%) or believes that a statement in an email message is equivalent to a binding contract or by all indications refuses to even read relevant legal documents does not quite cut it for the job. And if I had some legal document to back this assertion up that may help. I mean something definitive enough where it would say "you ought to do X" - and she clearly is not doing X, not even close.
    Sorry, but you won't find anything in laws or contracts that help you there.

    The answer to an incompetent board member is to get together with like minded owners, attend board meetings, vote her out and vote in a replacement.

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    Default Re: Rights and Responsibilities of the Condo (Hoa) President

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    Sorry, but you won't find anything in laws or contracts that help you there.

    The answer to an incompetent board member is to get together with like minded owners, attend board meetings, vote her out and vote in a replacement.
    Thanks for your input, adjusterjack!

    Yes, it looks like I won't sadly.

    And yes, your solution would work in a rational world; in this world, however, we have the situation where the president and a friend/neighbor of hers in the condominium have over 50% in our 4-unit condominium and thus is unlikely to be democratically reelected any time soon.

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    Default Re: Rights and Responsibilities of the Condo (Hoa) President

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    And yes, your solution would work in a rational world; in this world, however, we have the situation where the president and a friend/neighbor of hers in the condominium have over 50% in our 4-unit condominium and thus is unlikely to be democratically reelected any time soon.
    I get it.

    You're pretty well screwed unless you want to pony up a great deal of cash to hire a lawyer and sue them if they are doing anything that's detrimental enough to the HOA to be actionable.

    Another option is to sell your place and get out.

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    Default Re: What Are the Responsibilities of a HOA President

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    condominium president/manager
    A the president of a condo association is an entirely separate role from that of a property manager. Are you speaking of somebody who is serving only as the president, or are you speaking of somebody who has additional management duties?

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    Default Re: What Are the Responsibilities of a HOA President

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    A the president of a condo association is an entirely separate role from that of a property manager. Are you speaking of somebody who is serving only as the president, or are you speaking of somebody who has additional management duties?
    Mr. Knowitall, thanks!

    I meant the latter. Given the small size of the condominium (4 units) the president almost inevitably ends up performing at least some management duties.

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