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    Default Re: As a Convicted Felon, Can I Become a Teacher

    Okay, so you're a special snowflake and can get your felony expunged even though the law says you can't. Fine. I'm good with that.

    If you'd READ the link, you'd have seen that an expunged record will still be visible to employers if those employers are for teaching positions.

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    I'm not trying to offend you here. I read the link and multiple others like it. If you READ my previous reply, I already know expungement doesn't destroy my record or make it invisible to everyone. Government departments can see right through that mother.

    I honestly don't know why some here are being so sarcastic or rude. I appreciate all feedback, though. I really do. You didn't have to post your replies but you did. I just need help understanding and getting through this. I'm sure we can all agree life is already hard enough. I apologize if my story and questions weren't very clear.

    So, I'm sure being able to teach College Students (Adults) would also be out of the question :/

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    All we can do is point you at the law. We cannot tell you what decision any given school district will make when it comes to hiring someone with an expunged felony record.

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    Right. Well, from the sound of it, I can either bring on some college debt for a degree that I might never be able to use, or do some soul searching and find something else I can do.

    As for being a teacher, you need to be certified/licensed, and that requires a national criminal background check. I am 99.9% likely to not be expunged, so I won't be able to get a license.

    Wish me luck, folks. And best of luck to all of you.

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    All I meant by "consensual" is that it doesn't involve physical violence (or threat of same), or at least physical force, for the perpetrator to get what he/she wants. For example, if a 20-year-old male sweet-talks a 16-year-old girl into willingly having sex with him, it's statutory rape. However, if that same male physically overpowers that same female and physically forces her to have sex with him, even though she as made it clear she doesn't want to, that's rape.

    That's all I meant.

    Meanwhile, I note that very shortly after my first response, the OP changed his original age from 17 to 18 in his first (and so far only) post. Then he disappeared. I find this interesting...

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    Correction (edit is not working for me right now):

    Meanwhile, I note that very shortly after my first response (during which the OP was still viewing this thread)...
    He uses both ages.

    18 when charged, 17 when allegedly committing the crime.

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    Nothing he's said alters my original assessment. Rape of a minor is something schools are going to be particularly concerned about. The background check in Arkansas (and most other states I've seen) is specifically slanted towards abuse (sexual or otherwise) of children.

    If tried as an adult, you're crimes need to be expunged using the adult system which means you have to wait TEN years and as pointed out, certain sex offense are barred forever. As also pointed out, even with expungement, you may still be in state databases that your background check will find. In addition to the State Police and FBI databases, Arkansas maintains a separate child abuse database which isn't necessarily even "criminal" records subject to expunction.

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    Nothing he's said alters my original assessment. Rape of a minor is something schools are going to be particularly concerned about. The background check in Arkansas (and most other states I've seen) is specifically slanted towards abuse (sexual or otherwise) of children.

    If tried as an adult, you're crimes need to be expunged using the adult system which means you have to wait TEN years and as pointed out, certain sex offense are barred forever. As also pointed out, even with expungement, you may still be in state databases that your background check will find. In addition to the State Police and FBI databases, Arkansas maintains a separate child abuse database which isn't necessarily even "criminal" records subject to expunction.
    I realize this thread is all but said and done, but there's something that really sticks out here and it's bothering me to the Nth degree.

    The 17 year old thought she was 15 ... and he thought that was okay.

    15 year old = okay.

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    Yes, OP seems to think it's all down to her lying to him about her age, if she'd told him she was 13, he wouldn't have had sex with her, or if she'd really been 15 he wouldn't have been in trouble...but because she lied (and then had the audacity to break up with him, and THEN get mad at him!) none of this is really his fault.

    And then he's aggrieved about the possibility of spending thousands of dollars on an education that won't give him the career he wants...and this hasn't even happened yet!

    Also, OP mentions violence in several posts, but in his description of the "occurrence" I don't see any violence - but then he was convicted of two counts of assault...so what is this violence?

    Story still doesn't add up.

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    He uses both ages.

    18 when charged, 17 when allegedly committing the crime.
    I know. I just became suspicious when he changed the "17" to "18" while I was typing my response to him.

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    He uses both ages.

    18 when charged, 17 when allegedly committing the crime.
    I know. I just became suspicious when he changed the "17" to "18" while I was typing my response to him. I always get suspicious when people change their posts, especially when it's a material fact like this one might have been (not knowing how old the girl was at the time).

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    I realize this thread is all but said and done, but there's something that really sticks out here and it's bothering me to the Nth degree.

    The 17 year old thought she was 15 ... and he thought that was okay.

    15 year old = okay.
    Since the RJ provision says two years, I guess it is possible that he could be 17 nearly 18 and she could be an early 15 and have two years difference in the ages...

    (a) A person commits the crime of rape in the second degree if:

    (1) Being 16 years old or older, he or she engages in sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex less than 16 and more than 12 years old; provided, however, the actor is at least two years older than the member of the opposite sex.

    (2) He or she engages in sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex who is incapable of consent by reason of being mentally defective.

    (b) Rape in the second degree is a Class B felony.

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    Ooops just saw where he was charged with rape, not stat rape. This would explain the violence. However, that said, the fact that he confessed to assault says he's still no angel in all this.

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