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    Default Doctor Won't Renew Pain Medication After a Pill Audit

    My question involves medical malpractice in the state of: Syracuse New York

    I have been going to new york spine and wellness for 3 years. Its a pain clinic in North Syracuse. I got along well with the dr. He has helped me alot until a dreadful day in February.
    I know there is probably nothing I can do. I'm consist pain and was prescribed oxycodine. I never abused it. I went by the bottle 1-2 each day and got 180 a month. Well got a call from them to come in the next day for a "random pill count". Being close to the time for a refill. They counted me 16 short and immediatly took me off. I called the nurse Kim a few times maybe 8 times trying to get a straight answer from her. Then she accused me of calling 50 times in 2 weeks which was a lie.
    Anyways, they won't come out and say why they won't prescribe this again. They just told me to go to my primary dr for the pills, but she said she won't prescribe me narcotics. She finally said because twice I got my prescription few days ahead of time so its illegal for her or any dr to prescribe narcotics again. Can this be true?

    Sue

    ps they dumped me last week saying there was disruption in the physican/patient relationship.

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    Default Re: Problem with Medication

    What was the actual prescription for? 2 every 4 hours?

    When you say "a few days ahead", do you mean a few days before the earliest refill? (for example, you can usually refill at least a few days before the actual date printed on the bottle).
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    Default Re: Problem with Medication

    You need to get a copy of your medical records because you may not be able to find another pain dr to manage your pain, depending on what is written in them. Also there is nothing ellegal about your PCP prescribing you pain meds because you got refills early.You also need to read your Pain Contract.

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    Default Re: Problem with Medication

    You say you took 1-2 per day but received 180 per month. That allows for roughly 6 per day so as another asked; did you mean what you wrote?

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    Default Re: Problem with Medication

    Quote Quoting jk
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    You say you took 1-2 per day but received 180 per month. That allows for roughly 6 per day so as another asked; did you mean what you wrote?
    I suspect that the prescription was for 1-2 pills every [X] hours, with the expectation that it would typically work out to six per day (hence 180 per month), and that the OP omitted that detail.
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    I called the nurse Kim a few times maybe 8 times trying to get a straight answer from her. Then she accused me of calling 50 times in 2 weeks which was a lie.
    Whether you called eight times or fifty times is a matter of degree. It's still disruptive behavior that, in some cases, could be indicative of drug-seeking.
    Quote Quoting sueismyname
    They just told me to go to my primary dr for the pills, but she said she won't prescribe me narcotics. She finally said because twice I got my prescription few days ahead of time so its illegal for her or any dr to prescribe narcotics again.
    Your primary care physician is apparently concerned about the possibility that she'll be accused of over-prescribing pain medication, and is thus being cautious about whether and when she'll prescribe narcotics.

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    Default Re: Problem with Medication

    That's what I figured to but just wanted clarity.

    i know of doctors that will not treat patients with long term pain issues. They send them off to pain management t specialists. I guess complying with the new laws is onerous plus there is more overshadowing from big brother such that the doc really has to toe the line to avoid legal issues. Just not worth it to many doctors

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    Default Re: Problem with Medication

    There are no new laws that state a Pain Management Dr must treat chronic pain. Any dr that is has a DEA and CDS number can prescribe pain meds. But, many reg drs are chosing to not treat some of thei patients with chronic pain issues. A lot seems to depend on the type of of pain meds, the dosage and how long there has been a dr patient relationship. But, many drs, including pain management drs are also refusing to prescribe pain meds when anything indicates possible abuse.

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    Default Re: Problem with Medication

    Or it could be 1 to 2 pills per day making the script for 60 pills per month and she was getting a 90 day supply. That would be 180 pills. But OP will have to explain as I'm not certain that they will supply a controlled substance for 90 days.
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    Default Re: Problem with Medication

    Florida is a difficult state re: their rules and regs regarding the distribution of narcotic pain meds. You made a huge mistake calling repeatedly. And yes, being short on a pill count is grounds for the pain dr to drop you. Read the pain management contract you signed.

    I don't believe you can get a three month supply of Oxycodone (or any other narcotic) anymore.

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    Default Re: Problem with Medication

    the DEA changed the classification of hydrocodone and the combinations, that is correct. But that's only half of the story.

    "Also, a 30 day prescription is valid for 90 days, so some doctors may write more than one 30 prescription at once. But only one can be filled at any given time."

    So you can still obtain several scripts at once - you just can't refill them early. It doesn't actually change much in real terms - whether you have one rx for 90 days, or 3 for 30 days each, your use shouldn't be compromised other than having to pick them up every month versus once every 3 months.

    This is accurate and thankfully not mired in doctorspeakus. http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/ama-...classification
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