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    Default Filing for Unemployment is Difficult

    My question involves unemployment benefits for the state of: Michigan
    My question is a simple base question: Who can I complain to about the process of filing for unemployment? I realize they give you all the information in their handy dandy "toolkit" but why would it be so hard for them to summarize it so there is no confusion. I filed and was unaware I had to job search the week I filed and who knew the week starts on a Sunday? And to top that off they don't give you a chance to talk to a live person to explain yourself it's just basically yes or no answering. I really feel they need to atleast have a person available at their sites. I went there and was told by the MiWorks staff they don't work for Unemployment so they couldn't tell me this, that and the other thing when I went in with questions. It's a very poor system and I know my complaint won't change it but is there someone I can lodge a complaint with anyways?

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    Quote Quoting nickyswicky
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    My question involves unemployment benefits for the state of: Michigan
    My question is a simple base question: Who can I complain to about the process of filing for unemployment? I realize they give you all the information in their handy dandy "toolkit" but why would it be so hard for them to summarize it so there is no confusion. I filed and was unaware I had to job search the week I filed and who knew the week starts on a Sunday? And to top that off they don't give you a chance to talk to a live person to explain yourself it's just basically yes or no answering. I really feel they need to atleast have a person available at their sites. I went there and was told by the MiWorks staff they don't work for Unemployment so they couldn't tell me this, that and the other thing when I went in with questions. It's a very poor system and I know my complaint won't change it but is there someone I can lodge a complaint with anyways?

    This is not a legal question.

    It's also your responsibility to read and/or find the information. Otherwise, your complaint may end up in the circular file.

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    You are 1 person. There are 96 million Americans who are not working. At least half (so 47 million) are likely collecting and/or applying for UI benefits. If you want to collect, follow the instructions. Yes, there is a ton of paperwork. Yes, you need to wait 3 hours for your call to go through to the local UI office. Yes, it is virtually impossible to actually speak to someone and have your questions answered. When you initially filled your claim, you received a "welcome packet" that probably had 30 pages, half of which didn't apply to you. But it is your responsibility to ensure you follow all reporting and job search requirements. If you have specific questions about the program or how to collect, those specific questions should be asked.

    If you truly want to file a complaint, I'd suggest you call your local representative. I had an issue with UI benefits and I called my local rep's office and they were actually able to help in my circumstance.

    Any complaint you file directly to the UI office will end up in the trash.

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    Default Re: Not User Friendly

    Quote Quoting PADriver13
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    There are 96 million Americans who are not working. At least half (so 47 million) are likely collecting and/or applying for UI benefits.
    I know we can produce insanely inflated figures if we include high school and college students, retirees, the seriously disabled, people who are voluntarily out of the job market, and the like in a figure for how many people are "not working", but that's not a meaningful measure. Labor force participation is about 4% below its all-time peak.

    At present, roughly 2.86 million people are receiving unemployment.

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    Quote Quoting Mr. Knowitall
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    I know we can produce insanely inflated figures if we include high school and college students, retirees, the seriously disabled, people who are voluntarily out of the job market, and the like in a figure for how many people are "not working", but that's not a meaningful measure. Labor force participation is about 4% below its all-time peak.

    At present, roughly 2.86 million people are receiving unemployment.
    You are citing U.S. DOL figures. Those figures have proven historically to be manipulated. Unemployment figures also do not account for the number of workers who have given up searching. And if a 17 year old is seeking full-time employment and can't find it, I don't see how that individual is "irrelevant" in the total number simply becasue they are still in high school. Additionally, retirees who choose not to be retired not being counted is just silly. I'm not going to argue back and forth about what the actual number is. But more people are unemployed today than at any time in our history. That is fact. One needs to just drive around their closest major city and look at all the people walking around aimlessly on the streets.

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    Let me get this straight.... you are using a DOL statistic for labor force participation, and then are complaining that I am using DOL statistics to point out that your figure for labor force participation (all Americans over the age of 16) is misleading and that labor force participation is not much below its all-time high.... Fascinating.

    If you believe that the federal statistics for people receiving unemployment benefits are wrong, let alone wrong by more than an order of magnitude, it should be pretty easy for you to document that fact. Should we hold our collective breath waiting for you to come up with a figure, beyond the absurd number you previously fabricated?

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