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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Can LP Keep a Shoplifter's Personal Property

    Quote Quoting free9man
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    Oh, I'm quite sure that's probably true.

    My main point on the professionalism aspect was the cussing at the perp. You aren't supposed to do that, although I know it happens sometimes.
    Yes. Ideally I begin each contact treating the subject with courtesy and respect. Obviously, though, we deal with rapidly evolving situations - and sometimes choice of words can even be an appropriate verbal use of force to control a situation as much as handcuffing or take downs are.

    If I said that I've never uttered a 4 letter word at a suspect I'd be lying.

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    hey guys, offender here, um i did have very few item in my purse, yes i am planning on suing them of the ruby is not there. Duh, yes you should have seen that coming. The stop was very poorly planned and unprofessional, it seemed as if they weren't ready for me to walk out the door or were notified late about where they were to apprehend me i don't know it was just a strange event all together. I feel They were wrong by touching me past the sidewalk, especially to snatch my property from me after grabbing their property out .....it was two packages of Stafford one undershirt and one white tee. huge items and a few small things at the bottom of my bag were clearly mine (one of which was the ruby) being that i had gone straight into the men's section back to the shirts then back out the door. "If only i had my ring id turn my life around" is a huge statement and a cop out. I was def planning on using that ring for my daughters future. I want to open a family business so that she will never have to struggle and i have a way to provide her with an earned income so that she is never in a bind when it come to money. I know that shes will have an opportunity to earn what she needs and wants until she finds a career. Point is they violated my civil rights by taking my belongings and if its not all there im suing because we stood there and argued long enough for them to grab the shirts and give me my pruse back not to mention i asked for it back , they were dangling it over my head for me to step back on to the property, after that my mom went in asked for it and they denied her and told her to send me in and id have a better chance but either way their calling the cops i stood out there for like 45 min and no cops came. so i should call jcp lp or what steps can i mmake to recover my purse and keys is what im askimg

  3. #13
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    Default Re: Can LP Keep a Shoplifter's Personal Property

    Learn to write coherant sentences and use paragraphs.

    There's a saying "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."

    They didn't violate your civil rights and your opinion of how LP should be done when you've never done the job carries no weight.

    You should have went back in, but you didn't want to because you committed a crime and wanted to duck taking responsibility for it. If your ruby goes missing because it went in the trash, consider it the "stupid prize" you won for playing stupid games.

    Go ahead and try to sue. You won't be successful.

    Go ahead and call them and ask to come in. And be prepared to be arrested when you go in. I hope your ruby and keys are worth it.

    Oh, and QUIT BREAKING THE LAW. THEN YOU WON'T BE IN THESE PREDICAMENTS in the first place.

  4. #14
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    Default Re: Can LP Keep a Shoplifter's Personal Property

    I hear the same thing happened to Andrew Carnegie when he was young. He sued for the ruby and won enough money to build the Carnegie Steel empire.

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    deputy dog, if you dont have something nice to say, dont say it at all

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    disagreeable, this might be a stupid question but is that true

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    To the OP....if you had such a valuable ring in the purse - why did you not call the police? It would appear to me the ring, as you have described it, would be of such value that it would out way a shoplifting charge. Like Deputy Dog, I feel there is more to this story.

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    Default Re: Can LP Keep a Shoplifter's Personal Property

    Despite how "wrong" the LP may or may not have been, you were wrong first. If you hadn't been BREAKING THE LAW by shoplifting in the first place, no one would have had to stop you and you'd still have your ring.

    Who takes a valuable ring shoplifting with them? You don't think that was stupid?

    Like the others, I'm not seeing where anyone refused to return the ring to you. You want to risk a shoplifting charge by asking for it back? Go right ahead. I'd love to see more shoplifters charged and prosecuted.

  8. #18
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    Default Re: Can LP Keep a Shoplifter's Personal Property

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    deputy dog, if you dont have something nice to say, dont say it at all

    You don't get to choose how we respond.

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    disagreeable, this might be a stupid question but is that true
    Yep! TOTALLY true! It says it right there, doesn't it? If you read it on the internet, it's true.




    This place is populated in large part by people who work in law enforcement, loss prevention, and other jobs where they deal with people BS'ing every day. You're trying to sell a story here and it's not going well for you.

  9. #19
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    Default Re: Can LP Keep a Shoplifter's Personal Property

    call the store and ask to speak to the guy, see if he has the ring and say you want to pick it up if its important to you. if they call the police do not make any statements to them.

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