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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Will a Child Who Made False Abuse Accusations be Returned Home

    Many attorneys have political aspirations and they do what will advance that. Unfortunately, attorneys aren't always on the side of the clients when the state is on the other side. I'm curious, is this attorney one that you are paying or is it through legal aid ?

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    We're paying for the lawyer. We paid for the psych evals out of pocket because my insurance wouldn't pay unless we had a diagnosable illness. We paid for the parenting class and several computer/workbook based programs. My insurance did cover the individual and family counseling because we'd already met the deductible. Somehow CPS 'providing services' cost us a lot and provided little in the way of actual services for the one who needed the mental health care most!

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    If you had not had a way to pay for the services, the state would have sent you to someone they contracted with. I'm kinda surprised that the state isn't making you pay for the mental health and physical care that he is receiving. They could also be making you pay a certain amount to the state. Do you know if they have applied for SSI for him ?

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    They enrolled him in Medicaid as soon as they took him. They told me to keep my insurance on him. I have great insurance that pays for more than what Medicaid approves, he could see a psychologist, blood tests more often(due to drugs he's on), etc. I told them we meet our deductible early in the year but I have money in an HSA to pay that. I told them to keep taking him to the dentist & eye doctor he has always seen, that I don't have that insurance but I'd pay for it. They cancelled the dental appointment and took him to a Medicaid dr, at least that's what I was told, there are no records of him going to the dentist. Same with the eye doctor, he showed up with new glasses at the group home, 6 months after an eye appointment he had in our care. But there is no record of the doctor.
    In Dec 2013, 2 months after they took him, they suddenly stopped billing my insurance for the hospital care and runs to the clinic, and the counselor I was told he saw there. I've never received documents from that counselor. I've got a name on a family dr he saw, but records are missing.
    In Apr 2014, at the current placement, he was sent to the emergency room for a claim of an overdose. Caseworker #4 was on the job, and my insurance got billed. I had my attorney contact the A.P.(assistant Prosecutor) and ask for a ruling that I should maintain health coverage on him. I wanted to be sure they remembered I had coverage on him and bill my ins all the time. I got the ruling, I gave that to my provider, I got confirmation my insurance is primary, and they've never billed my insurance since. Medicines would be covered, tests, etc. The only thing, my insurance probably would have questioned this kid being placed on and kept on some of the meds. The Medicaid dr's don't, they just write more scripts. From Jan (or Feb, records incomplete) until July 2014 he never saw any doctor outside the hospital. They just kept calling in to get his scripts refilled. Antidepressants that INCREASE suicidality in teens, a heavy duty antipsychotic that was being used off label, something to make him sleep, and 2 or 3 acne medications; and they neglected to have him seen by a doctor!

    We chose where we went for our psych evals. I called a number on their list before finding one that doesn't like CPS. Our son went to one of the Medicaid drs when they finally added him to the case plan. That dr said he was mildly depressed, well duh! He wasn't allowed to see his son, the kinship placement has done everything they could to stop him. CPS has used the dx of 'mildly depressed' against him, but Medicaid would not have paid the bill without a dx! It's rigged to be against a person wanting to get their kid but without the means to pay for all the hoops CPS puts in front of them.

    When they sent him to the group home he went straight from a hospital stay for a suicide threat. That was Dec 2013. A psychiatrist had recommended he go to a treatment center for more intense individual, group, & family counseling. I contacted a nationally known hospital, local to us, and confirmed he met the criteria for an emergency admittance into the adolescent mental health center. My insurance would pay for it, too. CPS refused, said they had to send him to the 'least restrictive environment'. So, we got a 15 minute phone call a week and he got 1 hour/week of individual counseling and went to a public school(his 4th new school in the 1st semester of high school!) The hospital would have had daily counseling, ind, group, and family, as well as a tutor. They would have used the school materials from the original school so he could integrate back into the school when he came home. After a couple weeks at that home, over Christmas & New Years, we finally got to see him for a 2 hour visit weekly. It was 75 miles from home, my husband doesn't travel well, so our son, GS's father, was allowed to go with me.

    I suspect the only thing our lawyer has done for us is to keep the A.P. from filing to get child support from us. But their actions indicate that 2 months after they took him, they decided they were not going to return him. Oh, it took them 5 months to get HIM a psych eval. We weren't allowed to talk to that dr, either. He was in the current placement for 2 weeks and kinship/foster mommy who never knew him got to talk to the doctor!

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    Sorry for so long. This situation gets me fired up. Read it or not.

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    Default Re: Will a Child Who Made False Abuse Accusations be Returned Home

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    Didn't get a lawyer right away because we couldn't understand why they even took him. When the intake caseworker finally called us she said she shouldn't have taken him if she knew all we told her. She said she would pass on that information to the next caseworker and we thought our boy would be home in a week. None of the hearings were heard in the legally required time period. We have had a lawyer since Dec 2013. She advised to do everything CPS requested, before they had the caseplan ordered. We thought the caseplan was ridiculous, but did it anyway. CPS lost documentation, then denied it was what they required, then grudgingly accepted it, but each time meant more delays. They refused to answer phone calls. Then claimed the phone calls we did get qualified as the monthly meeting we found out we were supposed to have. They refused to set up counseling after cancelling the psychologist I had for GS. I really don't know why the lawyer didn't file to force them to follow their caseplan.

    Our lawyer and our sons lawyer both filed to have the GAL removed, judge denied the motion; said he had been on the job long enough to know what he was doing.

    All along our lawyer, and a counselor, and a psychologist kept asking us why we wanted this kid back in our house. Do you kick your family to the curb even when they are being a P.I.T.A.? We don't, we believed in hanging in there to get him help, and we were prevented from doing that. The only thing we've managed is to force them to get him to a doctor and a psychiatrist. We did manage to get the current psychiatrist to finally start getting him off an anti-psychotic after I asked the lawyer to file a paper with the doctor & the court saying we, his legal guardians, were never consulted and would never have given permission for him to be on that drug. I guess the threat of liability for injury scared the psychiatrist.

    At this point, we think we are done. CPS can give legal custody to that family and our son can file for visitation starting with reunification counseling. That's our best shot of getting him out of where he is. They don't give a crap about his future. That branch of his family goes from minimum wage job to minimum wage job; boy/girfriend to the next, etc. At least his mom knows he was better off with us, and that's her own aunt! But they trash her to our GS's face as a 'bar whore', etc. His mother is not stable enough to take him, but I know she wouldn't knowingly let him sleep with his girlfriend, or watch porn.

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    CrazyWhovian, if CPS keeps your daughter in foster care, it will be very doubtful they will send her out of state. Did CPS take all your children based on this child's claims? Are they all in the same foster placement? How often are your visits? Does she have a GAL or a CASA?
    Yes they took of our kids. My oldest is my son at age 15. He was separated from his sisters that very night because he dared to try to console them and defend them. When they were being taken away the CPS tried telling my girls ( ages 13, 12, 11 & 6 ) they were going on a camping trip. My son refused to let them be lied to and told the CPS lady to kiss his ass when she demanded he stop talking to his sisters. He was sent away from them that night. I know this because he snuck his cell phone and has been in contact with me. I know the girls are together and they all have a GAL ( I assume that is the guardian ad lidem and that I probably spelled it wrong ) The problem is, the only person she speaks to is my oldest daughter, the 13 year old who made the accusations. I know this because my son says he never spoke to her and we got a message via a classmate of my 11 year old who says she and her sisters were never spoken too, just the 13 year old. There are a few things you said in a post above that are exactly like we have going on here. Like we are being forced to get psych evals, get marriage counseling, take parent classes and stuff but also you mentioned that your grandson tells the CPS he don't want to go home but tells you different. My daughter tells CPS ( It's actually DFS here but I call them CPS to avoid confusion ) she don't want to go home but several of her friends have told us that in school she cries and says she wants to go home. Why would she tell them she wants to go home but tell CPS different?

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    Default Re: Will a Child Who Made False Abuse Accusations be Returned Home

    "Why would she tell them she wants to go home but tell CPS different? "

    Our grandson did that. The best reason I could come up with is this is what manipulative kids do. They want control and they want sympathy. They will tell a story that fits their purpose and audience. Once our grandson told a lie, he would never recant.
    Much of what CPS did to our GS was designed to 'break him', that won't work with a manipulative, oppositional teen. CPS lied to our grandson, too.

    I read a new term that seems to describe our GS, he's a "collector of injustices".

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    When were the children taken? Do you have a lawyer?

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