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    Default DMV Refused Title Transfer Because Signature Did Not Exactly Match Title Owner's Name

    My question involves vehicle registration or title in the state of: Arizona.

    I went down to my local MVD (Motor Vehicle Department) in Arizona to transfer a title from a Ford Ranger I had recently purchased from a private party.

    I was with the guy when he got the title notarized, and I never transferred the title and registered it there. I just figured I would do it the next day without having any issues.

    Anyways, I got my Ford Ranger insured, brought the title and appropriate paperwork into the MVD to get it transferred over and registered. I handed the clerk the title and she said there might be a problem with the title. My immediately thought was I got scammed or something. I've never purchased a vehicle from a private party before, only from dealerships, so I was wondering what the problem was.

    On the title, the guys name is listed XXXX XXXXXXXX JR , but on the back where the seller's signature block is he left out the JR part. The MVD would not accept this, and said I would need additional information from this person. I bought this vehicle in a different city and don't want to have to go through all the pain of trying to re-contact this person unless I really need to so I can get this straightened out.

    My question for them was: Why would the person notarize the title IF it wasn't going to be acceptable at the MVD? They didn't give me a real straight answer and I asked them what if I can't get a hold of the seller. There actually was a language barrier with the seller too when I purchased it and had to have a translating friend tag along when I bought it (Spanish to English)

    So my question is: Would I be able to just write a "JR" on the title and take it into a 3rd party MVD and get it done? The guy was obviously the actual owner, he just didn't write out his whole name, specifically the junior part, but who always does that when they have a junior in their name?

    Also, will the MVD have my name/title flagged for NEEDED paperwork before I can continue? All this over a "JR" is just aggravating trying to pay the state so I can drive my "New" little ranger.

    Any information would be helpful and appreciated!

    Thank you!

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    Default Re: DMV Wouldn't Accept Title Transfer Due to a Missing "Jr." (Questions)

    The person who notarized the title was only affirming the name of the person signing it was the person they identified by ID as that person. They are in no way connected to the DMV. You should have made sure he signed with the same name on the front. The thing that is interesting is he opened the door to the title and vehicle belonging to the SR.

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    Default Re: DMV Wouldn't Accept Title Transfer Due to a Missing "Jr." (Questions)

    Thanks for the info.

    But like I stated earlier, I've never bought a car from a private seller so I had no idea there would be an issue after the title was notarized. Anyways, the DMV gave me a piece of paperwork called, "One and the Same Certificate" listed here: http://azdot.gov/docs/default-source...6.pdf?sfvrsn=0

    I can probably get a hold of the guy, hopefully, and he would probably get this paperwork completed and mailed back to me, but they never gave me any clear directions on what to do with it. Do I have to send him the title back with this so the notary can look at the title then notarize the One and the Same? Then, hope that he will send me the stuff back?

    My other question would be: Did DMV note this in their system now that I am required to bring this piece of paperwork in even when I go to a 3rd party DMV title service place? Or can I just write "JR" on it and go into the 3rd party DMV and be done with this?

    All this extra work for such a small error!

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    Default Re: DMV Wouldn't Accept Title Transfer Due to a Missing "Jr." (Questions)

    You photocopy the front and back of the title, send those and the one and same form to him, request he complete it and have it notarized, preferably by the original notary. Once completed, have him mail them back. Offer to send him a twenty dollar gift card for his time, once you have a clear Nevada title in your name and you received the paperwork back to do so within 3 weeks.

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