Minor Caught with Drugs at School

[Dang24]

Their is a cop at my highschool but the cop was not present in the room while i was questioned and searched then after that i had to write a stateme and then the cop came in and looked at what was found on me then he questioned me (read me my maranda rights first but told me i was not under aresst then told me if i am willing to drop my rights to talk to him i did not know what that exactly ment but i said yes) another thing i never said yes or no that they can search my bag i just said i have a knife in the small pouch and i set my bag on the table and they opened everything

- - - Updated - - -

^^^^^^

[Mr. Knowitall]

I didn't say they could not search,,i know they can search,, but I was implying that evidence found by a teacher/principal might not hold up in a court of law, due to the teacher not being a law enforcement officer. therefore the chain of evidence started with the teacher, not the student.

I recognize what you are saying. The problem is that you don't know what you are talking about and, as happens far too often with your posts, you are completely wrong.

[Mercy&Grace]

In my state you don't have to be in law enforcement to sign in the chain of evidence. Although the evidence in the situation I'm referring to deals with post rape exams.

[Mr. Knowitall]

I got myself into a situation way back when in grade school.....

That's an interesting story. But this case didn't involve a locker search and, under Arizona law, parents do not need to be notified unless the minor is arrested at school -- the questioning and searches leading up to that point can occur without any notice to or involvement of the parents.

In my state you don't have to be in law enforcement to sign in the chain of evidence. Although the evidence in the situation I'm referring to deals with post rape exams.

I can enumerate the number of states in which Tony's theory has any validity by holding up zero fingers.

[tonynewman]

that seems like a slippery slope,, that any regular citizen can hand over drug evidence to a police officer and say I found it on this guys person or purse and that they can be arrested and even convicted in a court of law based on that evidence alone. seems like that would open the door to all sorts of acts of revenge.

can i ask if you are a lawyer Mr knowitall, just so i have an idea of what you base your statements of "im just wrong" on,, i could be wrong,, im not saying im right in any of my posts,,, more or less im just here to learn new things like most other users of this site.

[CourtClerk]

I didn't say they could not search,,i know they can search,, but I was implying that evidence found by a teacher/principal might not hold up in a court of law, due to the teacher not being a law enforcement officer. therefore the chain of evidence started with the teacher, not the student.

Please don't argue legal concepts with an attorney when you don't know what you're talking about...

[tonynewman]

Please don't argue legal concepts with an attorney when you don't know what you're talking about...

im not arguing anything,, how im I to know he was a lawyer,, I just find it hard to believe its true that anyone can hand drug evidence over to the police and they can convict based on that evidence alone, another poster here thinks this as well,, but whatever, im wrong. ill go away,, sorry I said anything... forget about it,, no need for the usual gang up.. Im done

[aaron]

Tony, you were correctly advised that if you want to educate yourself you should start your own threads for that purpose. When somebody is seeking help, the purpose of the thread is not "everybody stop what you're doing so we can educate Tony." I thought I had previously warned you about disrupting other people's threads. If not, consider yourself warned.

[tonynewman]

sorry,, my fault, didn't mean to do that, it got carried away due to my posts. wont happen again

[cdwjava]

Their is a cop at my highschool but the cop was not present in the room while i was questioned and searched then after that i had to write a stateme and then the cop came in and looked at what was found on me then he questioned me (read me my maranda rights first but told me i was not under aresst then told me if i am willing to drop my rights to talk to him i did not know what that exactly ment but i said yes) another thing i never said yes or no that they can search my bag i just said i have a knife in the small pouch and i set my bag on the table and they opened everything

If they had an inkling that you were carrying drugs or weapons, they can generally conduct a search even without your permission.

And the school can compel you to write a statement about he incident and even discipline you if you do not. Most often this is done before the officer gets involved.

- - - Updated - - -

that seems like a slippery slope,, that any regular citizen can hand over drug evidence to a police officer and say I found it on this guys person or purse and that they can be arrested and even convicted in a court of law based on that evidence alone. seems like that would open the door to all sorts of acts of revenge.

But, that is NOT what happened! This is not a case of Joe Citizen walking into the police department saying he found dope in his friends pants. This is a case of a school administrator conducting a search, finding contraband, and contacting the police. And, the suspect apparently not denying it was present and in his possession.

As with any inquiry, the defense can make all the arguments it wants. They are free to argue that the school administrator planted the dope or brought in his own and called the police because they had an irrational hatred for the defendant.