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    Default Re: Enforcing an Agreement Not to Take the Children Out of State

    Yeah, the quoting thing is annoying.

    Seriously? Leave it alone. You're not helping anybody but yourself and if you keep inserting yourself into a matter that is none of your concern, you're going to screw up your son-in-law's custody matters.

    Leave. It. Alone.

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    Honestly? You haven't provided enough information to determine if mom relocating the child could be deemed kidnapping or not.

    Were mom and dad married (I know you said son in law, but I've heard others use that term to refer to a SO's partner when no marriage took place)?

    If so, have they filed for divorce?

    Who is the child living with right now?

    If they have filed for divorce, has the court issued ANY orders with respect to the child?

    If there's a pending custody action, mom's attempt to relocate the child could, in fact, be deemed unlawful and she could be ordered to return the child to SC forthwith.

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    Honestly? You haven't provided enough information to determine if mom relocating the child could be deemed kidnapping or not.

    Were mom and dad married (I know you said son in law, but I've heard others use that term to refer to a SO's partner when no marriage took place)?

    yes for 12 years


    If so, have they filed for divorce?
    no
    Who is the child living with right now?
    Was with the father for 6 months prior to Sept. She picked them up one day and sent him an email that She was not bringing them back till he did certain things she wanted him to do.
    Took them to NC where new BF was. DSS was called on her and she (with new BF) brought them here for me to pretend they were living here to get DSS to go away. Left them for 3.5 weeks. This when I heard about Portland plans

    If they have filed for divorce, has the court issued ANY orders with respect to the child?
    no
    If there's a pending custody action, mom's attempt to relocate the child could, in fact, be deemed unlawful and she could be ordered to return the child to SC forthwith.
    no pending actions..


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    Quote Quoting EA1070a
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    Honestly? You haven't provided enough information to determine if mom relocating the child could be deemed kidnapping or not.

    Were mom and dad married (I know you said son in law, but I've heard others use that term to refer to a SO's partner when no marriage took place)?

    If so, have they filed for divorce?

    Who is the child living with right now?

    If they have filed for divorce, has the court issued ANY orders with respect to the child?

    If there's a pending custody action, mom's attempt to relocate the child could, in fact, be deemed unlawful and she could be ordered to return the child to SC forthwith.
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    Yes, seriously. In your own words, "The mother (my daughter) tried to take the kids to Portland without the fathers consent. I stopped her by taking the kids to him".

    I realize that you're trying to help your son-in-law. But in my opinion you're going way beyond that. You've inserted yourself a tad too much. Let me ask you a question though.

    Not trying to help the son in law really. Yes I have said I am helping him but what I am trying to do is protect my grandchildren

    If you weren't around, what would he be doing?


    His only family is his grandparents. He does not have the means for an attorney. I will provide that if my daughter takes action against him before she gets help for her issues.


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    Sorry about the messed up posts....This is not about me. It is not about my daughter. It is not about my son inlaw It about my grandchildrens best interest. There is much much more to this then what is in this thread thus far...

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    Default Re: Enforcing an Agreement Not to Take the Children Out of State

    You've made your decision, and that's fine. But (and I'll probably regret this) there is something of an elephant in the room.

    Mom. What exactly is going on that you believe she's legally unfit?

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    Default Re: Enforcing an Agreement Not to Take the Children Out of State

    I think I sent you a private message but it does not show in my sent box. Did you receive it?

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    Default Re: Enforcing an Agreement Not to Take the Children Out of State

    Yeap - let me go read itl

    In the meantime, please please please understand that most (if not all) of us actually do want to help Dad. But there are issues.

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    Default Re: Enforcing an Agreement Not to Take the Children Out of State

    Then as it stands right now LL is correct. Both parents have equal rights and mom can take the child wherever she sees fit.

    I suggest dad get his hiney down to the court immediately and file for divorce and custody, and ask the court for an order preventing mom from taking the child out of state.

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    Default Re: Enforcing an Agreement Not to Take the Children Out of State

    Dogmatique I do understand you guys want to help and I know I should have been more clear in some of my wording (most prob lol) but I did ask somewhere along the line if describing the details could go prvt...

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    I know it will take time to see a family court Judge. Is there such a thing as an emergency hearing that could keep her from taking the kids out of state temporally?...

    up date...mom and dad are talking through a mutual friend to come up with an agreement. I wish they would each just get an attorney and a guardian ad litem for the kids. This has been going on for 2 years now and the kidos are suffering from it all. And yes so is grandma. I just want to give my grands a lollypop and watch them play..anyway we will see what happens. :/

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    Default Re: Enforcing an Agreement Not to Take the Children Out of State

    Seriously? helping myself? Sorry I do not understand. He has his hands tied with 2 little ones and work. Why would getting answers to these questions hurt his case? Not being sarcastic I want to understand..I want to know if it could be considered committed kiddnapping by giving them to him..

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    Quote Quoting trishcimh
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    Seriously? helping myself? Sorry I do not understand. He has his hands tied with 2 little ones and work. Why would getting answers to these questions hurt his case? Not being sarcastic I want to understand..I want to know if it could be considered committed kiddnapping by giving them to him..

    Yes, seriously. In your own words, "The mother (my daughter) tried to take the kids to Portland without the fathers consent. I stopped her by taking the kids to him".

    I realize that you're trying to help your son-in-law. But in my opinion you're going way beyond that. You've inserted yourself a tad too much. Let me ask you a question though.

    If you weren't around, what would he be doing?

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