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    Default Re: Aggravated Robbery With a Deady Weapon

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    He broke into a house while the family was home and attempted to rob them

    None of the family was harmed however he did present a weapon
    What part of that do you think is not a crime against a person?
    He broke into someone's home.
    He presented a weapon which implies, " I will use this to harm you if you don't give me what I want".

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    .....He has some priors.....
    Tell #1!

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    .....Has been indicted .....
    Tell #2! Grand Jury no doubt.


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    It's so disappointing to see good people go bad and choose a life like this.
    The disappointment is that the "good people" he victimized will take a long time to regain their peace-of-mind. You know, that warm feeling of being safe and secure in your own home.

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    By presented a weapon I dont I made myself clear. He didn't pull one out or point it at anyone. It was visible tucked into the front of his pants. Also, the gun wasn't loaded. It was supposed to be a scare tactic but I guess he chickened out and couldn't do it. Anyway, I'm not gonna sit here and argue about what kind of person he is. Just wondering if there was anyone here who maybe went through something similar and could tell me the outcome of the trial.

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    And I haven't even talked to the guy. I'm hearing all this from someone else. So who knows how much of this is even true. No sense judging when you weren't even there.

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    Default Re: Aggravated Robbery With a Deady Weapon

    No sense posting about it if you weren't even there.

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    Just wondering if there was anyone here who maybe went through something similar and could tell me the outcome of the trial.

    No, there is no one here who committed armed robbery and then ran like a scared chicken.

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    By presented a weapon I dont I made myself clear. He didn't pull one out or point it at anyone. It was visible tucked into the front of his pants. Also, the gun wasn't loaded. It was supposed to be a scare tactic but I guess he chickened out and couldn't do it. Anyway, I'm not gonna sit here and argue about what kind of person he is. Just wondering if there was anyone here who maybe went through something similar and could tell me the outcome of the trial.

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    And I haven't even talked to the guy. I'm hearing all this from someone else. So who knows how much of this is even true. No sense judging when you weren't even there.
    It would be wise therefore for you to keep your trap shut - don't you think? But since you raised it, THIS is the type of person he is: A cowardly bully who evidently is still unable to fathom the concept of actually getting a legal job to pay for stuff you want. Much easier to rob someone else.

    And then you say...

    He didn't commit a "crime against persons." The only thing he planned to do was steal property, and when he realized the people were home, he bolted rather than hurting anyone or getting into a scuffle.
    So one of two things is happening here. You either:

    1. Believe the third hand account and are parroting what you've heard, or

    2. You think it's fine for a person to commit ARMED ROBBERY as long as they don't actually hurt the person.

    Neither paints you in a good light, but 2) is approaching frightening. If you really believe that taking a gun to a robbery doesn't count because it wasn't loaded and was tucked into the guy's pants, you have far bigger problems which cannot be addressed here.

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    OMG! It's the old 'gun-aint-loaded-so-its-okay' ploy. How one-sided of us to not "look" at all the angles.

    That being said........armed home invasion with priors, and the accomplice doing the save-my-ass state's witness dance, my guesstimate is for 25+ WOPP!

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    It would be wise therefore for you to keep your trap shut - don't you think? But since you raised it, THIS is the type of person he is: A cowardly bully who evidently is still unable to fathom the concept of actually getting a legal job to pay for stuff you want. Much easier to rob someone else.

    And then you say...



    So one of two things is happening here. You either:

    1. Believe the third hand account and are parroting what you've heard, or

    2. You think it's fine for a person to commit ARMED ROBBERY as long as they don't actually hurt the person.

    Neither paints you in a good light, but 2) is approaching frightening. If you really believe that taking a gun to a robbery doesn't count because it wasn't loaded and was tucked into the guy's pants, you have far bigger problems which cannot be addressed here.

    The reason i say 'no sense in judging when you weren't even there,' is because no one knows what was going on in his head or what his intent was no matter how bad it looks (and yes i realize how it looks, it looks like he's a huge selfish asshole with no respect for other people.)
    But no i don't think i need to keep my trap shut. I have every right to ask this question, because whether this is true or not, this is what he's being accused of in court. So I'm not the only one who believes this story I'm being told.

    And on another note, I think what he did was beyond horrible. I can't even imagine how scary it must have been for those people, and I'm sure they will never fully recover from it. I don't think its fine to commit ANY kind of robbery armed or not, and since we're now on the subject, i think its wrong for him to be pleading not guilty if he did it. Yes he's a friend and i don't want to see him spend the next however many years locked away, but i DO NOT agree with what he did and i think he deserves whatever jail time they try to give him. He needs to learn a huge lesson and be kept off the streets until he does.

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    then why did anybody have a gun?

    It's pretty simple when you look at it;

    if you are only breaking into a home and have no intent of confronting residents, there is absolutely no reason to have a gun. If you intend on confronting residents and threatening them, or worse, you would want a gun. The fact a gun was present shows intent.
    I consider a crime against persons hurting someone, or at least i thought thats what the other person was implying. But when you put it that way, yes using a gun even as a scare tactic is a crime against persons, i agree.

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    OMG! It's the old 'gun-aint-loaded-so-its-okay' ploy. How one-sided of us to not "look" at all the angles.

    That being said........armed home invasion with priors, and the accomplice doing the save-my-ass state's witness dance, my guesstimate is for 25+ WOPP!

    Obviously everyone is taking my responses the wrong way. No, its in no way shape or form okay to have a gun even if its not loaded. All i was trying to say was that he may have had plans to scare them, if it turned out they were home, but definitely not hurt them.

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    So I think with his criminal record and being robbery in Texas is considered a violent crime, he is going to see a minimum of 5 years in prison.

    Is aggravated robbery his one and only charge?

    What about possession of a firearm?

    What i've heard is that if you testify on your own behalf, when the prosecutor is questioning you he can bring up your priors. But, if you choose not to testify then its loophole of some sort where the prosecutor can't bring up your priors since he isn't going to be questioning you. So i figure theres a good chance the jury might not be made aware of his past, (assuming he doesn't testify.) But even if the jury did find out, he has no priors for anything robbery or gun related.

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    Just wondering if there was anyone here who maybe went through something similar and could tell me the outcome of the trial.

    No, there is no one here who committed armed robbery and then ran like a scared chicken.
    Omg, really? Totally thought there would be.

    I asked this question assuming there would be some people here who had either friends or family who were involved in a similar case and could enlighten me on what went down at trial.

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    The reason i say 'no sense in judging when you weren't even there,' is because no one knows what was going on in his head or what his intent was no matter how bad it looks (and yes i realize how it looks, it looks like he's a huge selfish asshole with no respect for other people.)
    But no i don't think i need to keep my trap shut. I have every right to ask this question, because whether this is true or not, this is what he's being accused of in court. So I'm not the only one who believes this story I'm being told.
    You have every right to ask the question, and we have every right to tell you it's none of your legal business. Works both ways, right?


    And on another note, I think what he did was beyond horrible. I can't even imagine how scary it must have been for those people, and I'm sure they will never fully recover from it. I don't think its fine to commit ANY kind of robbery armed or not, and since we're now on the subject, i think its wrong for him to be pleading not guilty if he did it. Yes he's a friend and i don't want to see him spend the next however many years locked away, but i DO NOT agree with what he did and i think he deserves whatever jail time they try to give him. He needs to learn a huge lesson and be kept off the streets until he does.
    This is where you're right. He needs to learn, and he better be damn sure he understands that in some places those terrified residents would have shot him.

    What i've heard is that if you testify on your own behalf, when the prosecutor is questioning you he can bring up your priors. But, if you choose not to testify then its loophole of some sort where the prosecutor can't bring up your priors since he isn't going to be questioning you. So i figure theres a good chance the jury might not be made aware of his past, (assuming he doesn't testify.) But even if the jury did find out, he has no priors for anything robbery or gun related.

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    That's what Tom Capano said, too. Oh.... wait....


    Omg, really? Totally thought there would be.

    I asked this question assuming there would be some people here who had either friends or family who were involved in a similar case and could enlighten me on what went down at trial.
    I'm asking you with sincerity here. Do you really think that the situation is common enough that you'd find a bunch of folk in a legal forum could relate?

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    Default Re: Aggravated Robbery With a Deady Weapon

    Since I'm not the one on trial i suppose its not really my business, but mind you about half the questions on this site are being asked by a friend or family member, not everyone comes here to talk about themselves.

    And since I'm in the crime section of this forum, and since robbery is becoming more and more common these days, yes i thought there would be quite a few people here who knew someone who had been charged with the same or similar offense.

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