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    Default Caught Stealing and Issued a Civil Demand by Macys

    Alrite so i made a mistake, honestly i didnt know what i was thinking, this is my first time ever doing anything like this i have a clean record rn.. im 18 and i got caught shoplifting a 25 $shirt by lp while i was walking out.. they made me sign some stuff they needed to verify me so i gave them my social, no police where involved or called . The fine is 425 and honesly i dont work and have no income, .. what happends if i dont pay it? & the lady said " the goood news is that this wont go on your record, "but is that if i pay the fine or not? Well thanks for lookinh and honestly i dont know what to do. I didnt know the consequences thats why i did it, but now that i know i wont ever shoplift again, they said dont come backto the store in 3 year ..im in california
    Any help would be appreciated.

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    Default Re: Civil Recovery Demand from Macys

    Macy's is a very aggressive company. I would expect if the civil demand is not paid, the cost of it will go up due to legal fees and they will press criminal charges.

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    Default Re: Caught Stealing and Issued a Civil Demand by Macys

    They will most likely pursue criminal charges if you don't pay.

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    Default Re: Caught Stealing and Issued a Civil Demand by Macys

    The civil demand is NOT a fine. It's a repayment to the merchant for the damages you caused them. If you don't pay, they may sue you in civil court (with additional damages involved in that collection). Despite the other two posters, while you don't indicate where are, but I do not know of any case of Macy's ( any other major retailer) using the threat of criminal prosecution to compel you to pay the civil demand. In fact, this would be criminal itself. In fact, I don't have any indication that Macy's pursues civil litigation to recover the money other than form letters from the "attorney's."

    You can always request to pay over time.

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    Default Re: Caught Stealing and Issued a Civil Demand by Macys

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    The civil demand is NOT a fine. It's a repayment to the merchant for the damages you caused them. If you don't pay, they may sue you in civil court (with additional damages involved in that collection). Despite the other two posters, while you don't indicate where are, but I do not know of any case of Macy's ( any other major retailer) using the threat of criminal prosecution to compel you to pay the civil demand. In fact, this would be criminal itself. In fact, I don't have any indication that Macy's pursues civil litigation to recover the money other than form letters from the "attorney's."

    You can always request to pay over time.
    I know at one point they were trying to get the LP personnel to call people who hadn't paid their civil demands. Don't know whatever happened with that but I know I wouldn't do it. That is just asking for trouble.

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    Default Re: Caught Stealing and Issued a Civil Demand by Macys

    Although state laws vary, in my state it would definitely not be illegal in any way to tie prosecution to civil restitution. Here that would not be extortion. It is done all the time. So it's not accurate to say that they can't prosecute you for failing to pay.

    I also wouldn't bet the farm on them not suing you.

    You figured out a way to steal, figure out a way to pay your obligations for stealing.

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    Default Re: Caught Stealing and Issued a Civil Demand by Macys

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    Alrite so i made a mistake, honestly i didnt know what i was thinking, this is my first time ever doing anything like this i have a clean record rn.. im 18 and i got caught shoplifting a 25 $shirt by lp while i was walking out.. they made me sign some stuff they needed to verify me so i gave them my social, no police where involved or called . The fine is 425 and honesly i dont work and have no income, .. what happends if i dont pay it? & the lady said " the goood news is that this wont go on your record, "but is that if i pay the fine or not? Well thanks for lookinh and honestly i dont know what to do. I didnt know the consequences thats why i did it, but now that i know i wont ever shoplift again, they said dont come backto the store in 3 year ..im in california
    Any help would be appreciated.

    Being in California, you can expect a hefty CD.

    Macys stopped the LP call back program, however they are very aggressive. Macys has a civil recovery center in Georgia if they can't collect, they send to Palmer and Associates. If Palmer can't collect, Macys gets it back and sues the shoplifter. Pay the Cd over time, I would recommend to pay in store and get the receipt from the register.

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