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    Post Ticket for Illegal Left Turn with No Driver's License

    My question involves a traffic ticket from the state of: California

    Hi Everyone,

    Couple weeks ago i was stopped by an officer in downtown San Diego for an illegal left turn in a right only turn street. He cited me for section: 21461A and at the same time cited me for 12500A because of my drivers license. The problem with my drivers license is that i'm a student here in the United States and (mistakenly) thought that i can use my international drivers license over here since i'm just temporarily in the country. When i handed my license to the office, he asked if i had a California one, and i told him i never got one, so he added the 12500A I to the citation.

    The bad news is that when i received the courtesy notice in the mail it says: To pay your ticket, pay $610 which is waaaaay too much for such a minor traffic violation. and in the second part it says that i'm not eligible for driving school, and the third parts says to mail a proof of license and pay the dismissal fee for the 12500A part.

    My questions are:
    1-is there any way to reduce the $610 violation?
    2-What should i do with the license part? I'll be leaving the country just 5 days after my court appearance day which is December 1st and by leaving i mean leaving for good and going back home.

    I honestly don't care about the points part since i got my insurance using the international drivers license and as i mentioned before i'll be leaving the country in less than two months from now.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Default Re: Ticket for Illegal Left Turn with No Drivers License

    To pay your ticket, pay $610 which is waaaaay too much for such a minor traffic violation.
    sorry but you don't get to decide what is too much. The state has set their fees and so far any challenge to the amount has been unsuccessful.



    1-is there any way to reduce the $610 violation?
    ya, get a CA license, send in proof along with the dismissal fee and you are home free

    2-What should i do with the license part? I'll be leaving the country just 5 days after my court appearance day which is December 1st and by leaving i mean leaving for good and going back home.
    its up to you. Do you think you will ever come back? If so, the warrant for your arrest will be setting there waiting for you.

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    Default Re: Ticket for Illegal Left Turn with No Driver's License

    All an "international driver's license" is, is a translation of your foreign driver's license. It gives you no right to drive independent of your having a valid license from an actual nation or state. The citation may in fact be based upon the fact that you presented only that translation without actually providing the officer with an actual valid driver's license.

    We don't have enough facts to comment upon whether you would have been required to obtain a California license based upon your temporary residency for school.

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    Default Re: Ticket for Illegal Left Turn with No Driver's License

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    All an "international driver's license" is, is a translation of your foreign driver's license. It gives you no right to drive independent of your having a valid license from an actual nation or state. The citation may in fact be based upon the fact that you presented only that translation without actually providing the officer with an actual valid driver's license.

    We don't have enough facts to comment upon whether you would have been required to obtain a California license based upon your temporary residency for school.
    Ok, change my:

    obtain a Cali license and show proof to:

    provide proof of a valid foreign license


    that still does not absolve OP of the issue with the left turn. OP appears a bit inclined to abscond than properly resolve the matter.

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    sorry but you don't get to decide what is too much. The state has set their fees and so far any challenge to the amount has been unsuccessful.



    ya, get a CA license, send in proof along with the dismissal fee and you are home free

    its up to you. Do you think you will ever come back? If so, the warrant for your arrest will be setting there waiting for you.
    Avoiding court date or not paying the fine is nothing i'm planning to do, i made a mistake and i deserve the ticket, i just wanted to see if its possible to for example ask the judge to lower the amount.

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    Quote Quoting Mr. Knowitall
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    All an "international driver's license" is, is a translation of your foreign driver's license. It gives you no right to drive independent of your having a valid license from an actual nation or state. The citation may in fact be based upon the fact that you presented only that translation without actually providing the officer with an actual valid driver's license.

    We don't have enough facts to comment upon whether you would have been required to obtain a California license based upon your temporary residency for school.
    In fact i did provide the officer with both my foreign country drivers license and the translated one. The officer's point was that i should have gotten a driver's license within ten days of moving in which is something i honestly didn't know about

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    Default Re: Ticket for Illegal Left Turn with No Drivers License

    Then why make the point of leaving the country within 5 days of your hearing?

    how long have you lived in California?

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    Default Re: Ticket for Illegal Left Turn with No Driver's License

    Ok guys, so today i went ahead and applied for a California drivers license. I've just received the temporary one while i schedule an appointment for a behind the wheel test. The question is can i use that temporary license/permit as a proof in court? or i should wait until i get the regular one?

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    Then why make the point of leaving the country within 5 days of your hearing?

    how long have you lived in California?
    i made that point because i was not thinking about getting a california drivers license since i'm already moving. I eventually went ahead and applied for a license today.

    i've lived in california since 2012!

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    Default Re: Ticket for Illegal Left Turn with No Driver's License

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    Ok guys, so today i went ahead and applied for a California drivers license. I've just received the temporary one while i schedule an appointment for a behind the wheel test. The question is can i use that temporary license/permit as a proof in court? or i should wait until i get the regular one?

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    i made that point because i was not thinking about getting a california drivers license since i'm already moving. I eventually went ahead and applied for a license today.

    i've lived in california since 2012!
    then yes, the ticket was proper.

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