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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Can a shoplifter be prosecuted even without evidence of recovered goods?

    JK, thank you. Your advice is far more helpful than the others' advice. Seems you are highly trained when it comes to these types of crimes. Everyone else just tells me the obvious.

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    Default Re: Can a shoplifter be prosecuted even without evidence of recovered goods?

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    JK, thank you. Your advice is far more helpful than the others' advice. Seems you are highly trained when it comes to these types of crimes. Everyone else just tells me the obvious.


    Oh because he candy coats everything and tells you you might get away with a crime hes a hero! Geez youasked for advice you got it. You didnt want help you wanted to be told you got away with it. You even had the nerve to lie to us it was you. Not to worry you will steal again and they will get you then. By the way you want advice dont go back into store if your seen they will nab you then. Theres some advice you really want!

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    Default Re: Can a shoplifter be prosecuted even without evidence of recovered goods?

    although I had no intent of sugar coating anything, it may appear that I did. I was merely trying to be realistic without being judgemental. In one post, that is why I stated the I do not condone theft. It is injurious to all of society as a whole and obviously wrong.

    I simply tried to look at things realistically and post my thoughts.

    With that said, I am by no way offended by panthers post. His (her) chastisement of the OP is well deserved and supported by my feelings. I wanted to stay away from getting morally involved.

    as Joe Friday used to say

    "the facts ma'am, just the facts"

    Sometimes when trying to do what is right (even when you have done something wrong), you cause more problems that letting things lie. If the store or state have no intention of prosecuting and do not have enough evidence to prosecute, the OP may simply be causing themselves a lot of grief that would result in no real and true punishment.

    If there is evidence, the store and/or state will prosecute and the OP will be held to answer.

    in the end, many folks believe Karma will prevail.

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    Default Re: Can a shoplifter be prosecuted even without evidence of recovered goods?

    JK may objection was not to your post but OP's reply as only helpful one. I have read many of your posts and honestly in most cases we agree and I do realize your take on this type incident. You were correct with your post and yes its not likely anything will come of this event and OP will get away with it. That is not your fault. I took no offense to your post it was correct my rebuttal was to OP's complete disregard for law and how her breaking it effected others. Her only objective with post was to get insight as to if she got away with it. I believe store has enough evidecne to prosecute but will PD act on it? Will they go to the home and question the Mom or call? Doubtful but possible. JK I am sorry if you felt my post was directed towards you it was not! The candcoat comment was directed towards OP's reaction to your post not your post in general. I am confident that either PD will catch up to her or she will be caught committing another crime since she hasnt learned anything other than she got away with it. JK my aplogise if you felt directed my comments toward you

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    Default Re: Can a shoplifter be prosecuted even without evidence of recovered goods?

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    JK I am sorry if you felt my post was directed towards you it was not!
    No apologies neccessary. I tried to make that clear with my post. I was in no way offended nor did I feel you were intending to do so.

    we be cool

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    Default Re: Can a shoplifter be prosecuted even without evidence of recovered goods?

    Thank you. All the advice is really helpful. You guys have a nice holiday season.

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    Thumbs down What's wrong with this picture?

    "I am 18 in California. A girl was caught shoplifting on camera at a department store. She ran out the store right when I was walking out and this occurred at night time. I left to my car when 2 security men came knocking on my car window thinking that I was the shoplifter??!!! They took my license plate number down as I drove off in a panick. What is the most likely thing that is going to happen to me? My car is registered in my mom's name. Is there enough evidence for the store to prosecute? They do not have cameras in the parking lot so how would I be able to defend that I am not the girl they were looking for?"

    Soooooooo, this is what I end up in my PM box about today. Are we exhibiting a pattern here? Methinks a resounding YES!!!

    Look at the FACTS, MR. jk...... "girl caught shoplifting", "she ran out", "I was walking out", "I left to my car when 2 security men came knocking", "I drove off in a panic"........there's more, but why bother. 2 plus 2 ain't making 4 here slim!
    According to the "story" the 'lifter was caught, the poster made it to her car while WALKING. SO!, why the panic? Why the inconsistensies so obvious in the postings that my neighbor's dog could pick up on 'em? And he a 3-legged, half-blind chihuahua!!!

    All jk's doing is the ExpertLaw version of tree-huggin'. Nice try, but this one don't fly!

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    Lightbulb Okay Clancy! Take the boys and surround the hoose!

    Hey Baffle! Who's that knockin' on the door???

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    Default Re: Can a shoplifter be prosecuted even without evidence of recovered goods?

    Wasn't tree huggin. Merely being realistic and factual.



    Did you miss when I posted this Dave?
    You sure sound awfully guilty for claiming innocence though.
    I'm not blind nor ignorant. Of course the OP did it. They actually posted it earlier in this thread.

    I'm just saying that if there isn't enough evidence to prosecute, all the OP will end up doing is causing a bunch of trouble for themselves. I don;t agree with shoplifting but I also believe the police and LP need to prove their own case.

    (here is the blind faith though)

    maybe if the OP got enough of a scare out of this, they may actually think twice before doing it again. If not, they willl eventually get caught. Either way, things get better.

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    Default Re: Can a shoplifter be prosecuted even without evidence of recovered goods?

    Oops! My bad..... I apologize. I missed the part that you posted.

    I was speedreading a bit too fast. (And I was REALLY surprised to get a PM from Da Bafflr!)

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