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    Thats what's wrong with authority. I could have endangered the public by driving a car that had the wrong plates on it? But as soon as I paid the taxes on it then the public would no longer be in danger. And to think, people would actually go to court and argue that crap and probably get away with it.

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    Orc. 4549.08 section A subsection 3.

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    Here, I'll actually help the OP. If it is applicable, and he is truthful about the specifics, he is home free:


    4503.12(A)(4)

    (4) If the original owner of a motor vehicle that has been transferred makes application for the registration of another motor vehicle at any time during the remainder of the registration period for which the transferred motor vehicle was registered, the owner may file an application for transfer of the registration and, where applicable, the license plates. The transfer of the registration and, where applicable, the license plates from the motor vehicle for which they originally were issued to a succeeding motor vehicle purchased by the same person in whose name the original registration and license plates were issued shall be done within a period not to exceed thirty days. During that thirty-day period, the license plates from the motor vehicle for which they originally were issued may be displayed on the succeeding motor vehicle, and the succeeding motor vehicle may be operated on the public roads and highways in this state.
    all you need is proof you transferred the vehicle the plates belong to within the prior 30 days.

    and with that my admission of being incorrect with my statement about the legality of the claim by the OP.

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    Thats what's wrong with authority. I could have endangered the public by driving a car that had the wrong plates on it? But as soon as I paid the taxes on it then the public would no longer be in danger. And to think, people would actually go to court and argue that crap and probably get away with it.

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    Orc. 4549.08 section A subsection 3.
    it is endangering the public in whole not because of it not being registered, per se, but that
    1. a person that drives an unregistered vehicle (outside of any exceptions in the law) has proven themselves to have a disregard for the laws of the state and as such, is considered to be a danger to society.

    2. the likelihood of a person with an invalid registration also not having the required insurance on the vehicle is extremely high. As such, any person involved in an accident with that person, or any owner of any property damaged by the driver, is at risk of not being justly compensated by the offending driver so again, an endangerment to the public


    endanger does not have to mean there is an intent to physically harm a person. It simply means you can cause injury to others and monetary damage is still injury.

    while I suspect there is no requirement to carry proof of transferring the prior vehicle with you, a smart person would realize that since that is the exception that allows you to act in a way that would otherwise be a criminal act, that person would carry that proof with them. It would have avoided what happened to you now, wouldn't it?

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    I understand that I broke the law and im sure I will be punished for that when I go to court. I have the tickets and a court date. So what was the point of taking the car from my property? If his reasoning was that.of that he may have believed that the car would again been driven illegaly, I have a very clean driving record and am a class A cdl holder. There is nothing that would support that theroy. He wrote the ticket for fictitious registration because I had just bought the car two weeks before. My old car had blown up and I sent it to the scrap yard. I took my tags off of the old car and put them on my new one. Which is perfectly legal in Ohio for thirty days while you are filling for a new registration. The problem was that I didn't have proof that I had scraped the old car and that was his reasoning for the ticket and the impound. I cannot find the law that says that you have to carry proof and he refused to tell me. Also as for the search, he was not doing an inventory he was doing an actual search, looking through everything. He stopped once he realized that I was recording him with my phone. He searched for what seemed like 10 minutes and only wrote 6 items on the inventory list. But I realize this is my problem, just was hoping someone that knew something about the laws in ohio would lead me in the right direction towards a law I use for the impoundment. It's common sense that impound laws were only created to remove vehicles out of the way of the public for safety reasons once a driver has been arrested. Not for the impoundment from ones personal driveway just because of a traffic ticket.

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    I understand that I broke the law and im sure I will be punished for that when I go to court. I have the tickets and a court date. So what was the point of taking the car from my property?
    To remove the tool of the unlawful activity. To compel you to properly register the vehicle. To force you to obey the law. Take your pick.

    If his reasoning was that.of that he may have believed that the car would again been driven illegaly, I have a very clean driving record and am a class A cdl holder.
    That's great. But, now, you clearly appear to have a blemish on that clear driving record.

    There is nothing that would support that theroy. He wrote the ticket for fictitious registration because I had just bought the car two weeks before. My old car had blown up and I sent it to the scrap yard. I took my tags off of the old car and put them on my new one. Which is perfectly legal in Ohio for thirty days while you are filling for a new registration.
    Then, I suppose you'll have a great defense. This seems odd, but, I suppose in some states plates follow the owner and not the vehicle.

    The problem was that I didn't have proof that I had scraped the old car and that was his reasoning for the ticket and the impound.
    So, if you are able to get this proof, you should have a good defense, correct?

    Also as for the search, he was not doing an inventory he was doing an actual search, looking through everything.
    The "inventory" IS, essentially, a search. He doesn't have to be writing down every little item in the car.

    It's common sense that impound laws were only created to remove vehicles out of the way of the public for safety reasons once a driver has been arrested. Not for the impoundment from ones personal driveway just because of a traffic ticket.
    I suspect the impound was because the unlawful registered vehicle was being operated on the public roadway, not simply for a ticket.

    Oh, and if the law had been designed solely to remove potential traffic hazards, I suspect the legislature would have written the relevant code sections to cover only that circumstance. I have not looked up the sections, but, I strongly suspect that they cover a number of contingencies including unregistered vehicles.

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    Common lament of lawbreakers when they get caught and have to face the consequences.
    its people like you that are so hell bent on getting someone for whatever you can that just skip the whole story and read only the part you want. You Must be a cop to act that way. Not caring if someone is innocent just get to the part where you can get them for something and make yourself feel better. I hope your cop buddy feels good about "stealing" my car although the car was legal and doing a thorough search in it against the 4th admendment. All but thats ok cuz we don't have rights anymore because of ignorance.

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    I never came here to post and just to get told I broke the law, im the bad man, etc. I came here because I thought that maybe I could get some help from someone that might know something about laws because the site is called expertlaw. If the name of the site was called Idiots that just want to put you down, swear your a felon and just have to put their 2 cents in even though you have done nothing.wrong I would have posted somewhere else.

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    Also a common "shoot the messenger" response from some one who doesn't want to accept the consequences of his actions.

    You've been told that you might have a defense to the citation if you can prove you scrapped the vehicle. Which is also the proof you need to get the registration straightened out so you can get your car back.

    THAT's what you came here to learn but you went sideways about the injustice of it all. Not our fault that you are unhappy with the results.

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    You police officers need to realize that you are only hurting this country and your family's by taking our rights away. You think it makes you look like badasses but in reality you are just hurting yourself. If I actually wanted to take this to the supreme court they would have to drop all charges and pay millions in retribution. By the actual law I don't even need a license to travel on our public roads that believe it or not, still belong to the the public. Let alone need tags or even insurance since it is my constitutional right to travel unencumbered by you dickheads. But since idiots like your.self think its cool for America to become a place of no rights and be under martial law this is the things Americans have to deal with. And in most cases americans also pretaines to your own family. **** your own family over just so you can feel better about yourself. Your awesome.

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    I think only two people that responded to you are cops. I'm sure there were no more than two though.




    And in most cases americans also pretaines to your own family
    hmm, pretains. Would that mean something happened before the taining ocured?


    Your awesome.
    your awesome what? Oh, I bet you meant You're, as in you are awesome (obviously this is not referring to you)


    If I actually wanted to take this to the supreme court they would have to drop all charges and pay millions in retribution.
    Um, no...just no.


    By the actual law I don't even need a license to travel on our public roads that believe it or not, still belong to the the public.
    Let alone need tags or even insurance since it is my constitutional right to travel unencumbered by you dickheads.
    Oh, you're (notice the apostrophe) one of those.

    Those statements have proven to be little more than entertainment and I have to admit, I don't even laugh anymore when I hear them. I just shake my head in disbelief.

    have a great life. I suggest you start digging for that receipt, if there ever was actually a receipt.

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    What do you mean, "you police officers"?

    Most of us here are not police officers and most of us here avoid problems like the one you are describing by... wait for it... obeying the law.

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    Quote Quoting MrDurham
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    You police officers need to realize that you are only hurting this country and your family's by taking our rights away. You think it makes you look like badasses but in reality you are just hurting yourself. If I actually wanted to take this to the supreme court they would have to drop all charges and pay millions in retribution. By the actual law I don't even need a license to travel on our public roads that believe it or not, still belong to the the public. Let alone need tags or even insurance since it is my constitutional right to travel unencumbered by you dickheads. But since idiots like your.self think its cool for America to become a place of no rights and be under martial law this is the things Americans have to deal with. And in most cases americans also pretaines to your own family. **** your own family over just so you can feel better about yourself. Your awesome.
    Now you've descended into the abyss of stupidity.

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