Accused of Stealing and Using Somebody Else's Credit Card

[DeputyDog]

I call BS.

If you didn't do it, you have nothing to worry about. If it wasn't you, then there's no video of you and if your van wasn't there because it was in the shop that is easily proven as well.

There's too many coincidences here. Starting with the fact that you were there when the card disappeared. Then your van, or one that looks exactly like it was at the gas station. Then you were in the store. You just keep showing up everywhere something goes on with this card. Oh, and the final coincidence - you have a criminal record for a crime of deception.

Again, if you didn't do it, you have nothing to worry about. If you did, expect to be charged.

[Isabella Olson]

Yes DeputyDog, I was there but so was several other people. And yes, I do have a record of being deceitful. Those charges where many years ago and I am not the person I was back then. There was a black women at the BBQ. She was there with her boyfriend, which was the moms ex. I didn’t interact with them…but they were there the day of the BBQ.

This investigator is basing what I look like with a face book photo and the fact that I Ink. But, again, my friend is a tattoo Artist. I'm not his only friend with ink. However, I have not yet to met this investigator. You can assume what you want….I don’t care if I was at 10 different stores that day and this card was used at everyone. The fact that I didn’t use the card should matter. I can clearly prove I was not on camera in my white van at the gas station….and if I have too. The manager of that gas station would know if it was me….I go there often.

The common denominator is me….I get it. BUT I DIDN’T DO IT! I have no reason to lie about it. I have a bogus user name and no one knows who I am….so what would be my motive to lie?


Now, The friend I went there to visit has a record too. He was once known as a well known Drug dealer.. There was also another women there that once upon a time she was a hot mess. I wasn't the only person there with a past.

[DeputyDog]

Find better friends.

Why is it that I can go to parties, nothing ever comes up missing, and I never end up accused of things?

You hang out with people like that, it's only a matter of time before things happen. And then it's only a matter of time before the finger gets pointed at you, whether you did anything wrong or not.

[Mr. Knowitall]

Well, two days after the BBQ I was told that my friends moms credit card was stolen….My friend said the credit card was used a gas station near my house and when they asked for the surveillance camera of it…it showed a black women driving a white van. I am a white women and I drive a white van. This card was used at a few other store near my home. One of the purchases where at a drug store….and I was told I’m on camera.

I called the drug store in question and I asked about there surveillance cameras. The manager said, there is only a date stamp on there cameras not a time stamp. So I might have been to that store that day……but the time is unknown.

It's actually pretty easy to correlate video footage to time of day based upon other information in the video. As store videos are usually focused on the cash register, the items sold can be matched with the register tape to identify who made a specific purchase. Also, as the video will reflect when the store is opened, it generally takes nothing more than the counter on the playback device to determine how long after opening any particular event occurred.

The police will be able to determine what was purchased at the gas station from the credit card information and register tape. If you're on video making a purchase, it will be easy enough for them to confirm or disprove that the amount of the purchase matches the amount charged to the card.

I have not been around any black women any time recently.

Yes you have, not that it much matters.

There was a black women at the BBQ. She was there with her boyfriend, which was the moms ex. I didn’t interact with them…but they were there the day of the BBQ.

And the day in question, my white van was in the shop

The focus is on the van, not the occupant. If the van cannot be yours, then it inexorably follows that the woman was not driving your van.

I am going through my bank statements to see if I was in fact at the drug store in question. If I was at the drug store and I don’t know if I was….I must have a transaction record on my statement.

You say you go there two or three times per day, but now you're not sure if you went there?

This investigator is basing what I look like with a face book photo and the fact that I Ink.

If your face and your tattoos are on the surveillance video, that's all it takes to conclude that the person depicted is you.

Beyond that, should we infer that store clerks at the other stores have identified you from a series of photos that includes your Facebook picture? Or that they've accurately described your tattoos?

But, again, my friend is a tattoo Artist. I'm not his only friend with ink.

But you're the only person with your face and your tattoos.

You can assume what you want….I don’t care if I was at 10 different stores that day and this card was used at everyone. The fact that I didn’t use the card should matter.

If you can be shown to have been in numerous different stores on that date, with the card used in each of the stores during periods when you were present, you can expect to be convicted based upon that evidence.

Are all of the stores where the card was used places you shop? In addition to the gas station and drug station you frequent, were you in any of the other stores around the time the card would have been used?

I can clearly prove I was not on camera in my white van at the gas station….and if I have too.

From what you've told us, nobody is suggesting that you're the black woman seen at the gas station.

The manager of that gas station would know if it was me….I go there often.

Managers aren't always on duty, and even when they're present they will often be performing duties other than waiting on customers.

I have a bogus user name and no one knows who I am….so what would be my motive to lie?

We get people here who test out their stories on us, to see if they have any chance of convincing a police officer or prosecutor that they didn't commit a crime. Albeit for a ticket, we had a person come back a while ago to brag that after we told him that he couldn't win his ticket on the merits, he lied to the court about what happened and got a dismissal. That may not be what you're doing, but it's what others do and have done.

Now, The friend I went there to visit has a record too. He was once known as a well known Drug dealer.. There was also another women there that once upon a time she was a hot mess. I wasn't the only person there with a past.

So far, you've not identified anybody else who frequents at least two of the locations where the card was used, let alone lives in the same county as you such that the various transactions would have occurred near where you live.

[Isabella Olson]

The card was used 10 miles from my house. All the stores in question is in the same general area.

I don’t usually hang out with those kinds of people. I haven’t seen this friend since high school however, him and I chat often on face book. I also know several of his family members.

I was told this card was used at a redbox and liquor store as well. The investigator didn’t tell me that….my friend did.

When I first made this post, I wasn't sure if I was at the drug store….since then, I have been able to find a transaction on my debit card of me being there.

I cant imagine a normal employee has access to the cameras. I would imagine someone with authority would have to percent camera footage. IDK

I believe I have answered everyone’s questions. To Deputydog, I’m afraid the officer or investigator will have the same mentality as you…….

I have a full sleeve on one my arms...I can't imagine I'm the only white women with a sleeve that shops at a gas station!

[Mr. Knowitall]

An alternative prosecution theory could be that you gave or sold the credit card to somebody from your community to use, and that they in fact subsequently used it around where you live.

Beyond your apparent presence at the drug store and possibly also the gas station on the day that the cards were used, you'll either be associated with the specific transactions in which the card was used or you will not. If not, they will either identify the person who engaged in the specific transactions or they will not. If they succeed in identifying the person, unless by some miracle it was another guest at the party who happens to live near you, you can expect that one of the first questions asked will be, "How did you get the card?" If the police find their answer acceptable and it doesn't involve getting the card from you, then you should be in the clear. If the police are unable to investigate any suspect other than you, odds are they'll write up a report, submit it to a prosecutor, and let the prosecutor decide if they have enough facts to justify proceeding with a criminal charge.

[Isabella Olson]

I didn't take the card....so, I didn't give the card to someone else. I'm not sure if anyone else has been someone of interest. I haven't been to a liquor store in the last 4 weeks...so I'm not going to on camera buying liquor.

So, they can prove I was at a drug store on a Saturday and a white van was used at a gas pump using this card.... So,I have proof i didn't use it at gas station. and I didn't use it at a liquor store...So isn't that enough proof that maybe I was just at the wrong place at the wrong time?

My friends mom lives 11 miles away from my home.....and i live 9 miles from the gas station and drug store. I just checked my navigation.

My friend doesn't live with his mother...he lives hours away from me. But he was there the weekend this all happened. so was his sister and a few other people. They all put up tents and had a fire until late. I was there only 2 hours.

[Mr. Knowitall]

You protest far too much.

The evidence will show what it shows. As for the rest, time will tell.