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    Default Tourist Charged With Shoplifting, but Left the Country

    My question involves criminal law for the state of: orlando florida

    good day all, I am a Bahamain woman, not a florida resident who just been to Orlando florida this month. i got myself in a predicament where i made a bad decision of shop lifting items in the amount about $57.00. i was caught and taken in the back of the store where i was questioned and my photo taken and i was given a notice for a civil demand notice. A sherifft was called who questioned me further but he didn't arrest me and gave me no papers or anything like that. i was let go after all that to go back in the mall with my kids. i left with the civil demand notice. i am back home in the bahamas and dont know what to do?

    i need to know what will happen to me and what should i do in obtaining a lawyer, should it be a bahamian lawyer or florida lawyer? what is a civil demand notice?

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    Default Re: Tourist Charged With Shoplifting, but Left the Country

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    My question involves criminal law for the state of: orlando florida

    good day all, I am a Bahamain woman, not a florida resident who just been to Orlando florida this month. i got myself in a predicament where i made a bad decision of shop lifting items in the amount about $57.00. i was caught and taken in the back of the store where i was questioned and my photo taken and i was given a notice for a civil demand notice. A sherifft was called who questioned me further but he didn't arrest me and gave me no papers or anything like that. i was let go after all that to go back in the mall with my kids. i left with the civil demand notice. i am back home in the bahamas and dont know what to do?

    i need to know what will happen to me and what should i do in obtaining a lawyer, should it be a bahamian lawyer or florida lawyer? what is a civil demand notice?
    You were not arrested. Therefore you were not charged. A civil demand notice is a demand that you pay a fine to the store for attempting to shoplift. It is not a criminal matter it is a civil matter. If you do not pay it, you can be sued. However, I don't know if the laws of the Bahamas would allow for that kind of civil demand lawsuit. You cannot be sued in the US because the US has no jurisdiction over someone living in the Bahamas.

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    Default Re: Tourist Charged With Shoplifting, but Left the Country

    Don't plan on coming back to the US. Your warrant will be waiting.

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    Default Re: Tourist Charged With Shoplifting, but Left the Country

    What he said.

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    Default Re: Tourist Charged With Shoplifting, but Left the Country

    Quote Quoting llworking
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    You were not arrested. Therefore you were not charged.
    It is possible to be charged without being arrested.
    Quote Quoting llworking
    You cannot be sued in the US because the US has no jurisdiction over someone living in the Bahamas.
    Jurisdiction would be predicated upon the fact that the foreign national was present in Florida and committed the wrongful act in Florida. Whether it would be deemed worth trying to sue a foreign national in the United States, given the amount of money involved, issues with service, and the like, is another matter -- I doubt that a suit will be filed, but if one is the Florida court would have both personal and subject matter jurisdiction.
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    Don't plan on coming back to the US. Your warrant will be waiting.
    There will only be a warrant if charges are filed. We don't know that charges were filed. That can be investigated with the court in the county in which the offense occurred. Florida puts most of its court dockets online, with easy, free access, so it should be easy enough to find out. Here's the Orange County site.

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