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    Default Do No-Contact Orders Apply Outside the Country

    My question involves criminal law for the state of: WA

    If the court has issued me a no-contact order so that I can't contact a person, does it make a difference if they go to another country? The protected person is a US citizen, and also wants to contact me. For the past month or so they have been trying to see me and contact, but they are an international who is visiting and they don't really understand that I can't contact them. Luckily, my friend explained the situation to the protected person once when the person tried to come into my apartment when I wasn't there.

    The no contact order is of DV nature, but it isn't because either of us were physical towards each other. Someone else actually got the order issued to me. It's quite complicated because the person who got it issued on me is a guy who claimed I did something to him, and the protected person has connections to both of us, so the court issued a no contact order only for the protected person.

    The protected person wants the order removed, but they are not in this country anymore. They are still trying to contact me. I am not sure if they can get it removed because someone else got it put up in the first place. Therefore I am wondering if it is safe for me to talk to them. Can the US even protect non-citizens who are not in the country?

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    Default Re: Do No-Contact Orders Apply Outside the Country

    Why would you even want contact?

    Do you realize that you could be set up here?

    The court isn't at this point worried about the other person's safety - they're worried about YOU breaking a court order.

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    Default Re: Do No-Contact Orders Apply Outside the Country

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    Why would you even want contact?

    Do you realize that you could be set up here?

    The court isn't at this point worried about the other person's safety - they're worried about YOU breaking a court order.
    The protected person wants the order removed as well... But they don't know how to do this because they are in another country. I think it's really ridiculous and limiting this kind of order. As of now, I am still getting messages not only from them, but from the family and their friends, too. You could say I am an important person in their life and the person who got the order issued is someone jealous who doesn't like that.

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    Default Re: Do No-Contact Orders Apply Outside the Country

    Back up a second.

    You're in WA, yes? And even though there was no basis for such an order, the court ordered it anyway?

    Was there a minor involved?

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    Back up a second.

    You're in WA, yes? And even though there was no basis for such an order, the court ordered it anyway?

    Was there a minor involved?
    No minors. We're all adults. If anything there should just be an order for the person who issued it against me, because he claimed I did something to him. Nothing happened to the protected person, although the protected person was a witness. However, the protected person did not testify because they want back to their country before they could. However, there is no order for the person who claimed something happened to him, but there is for the protected person. If it matter, the person who accused is male and the protected person who just witnessed is female.

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    Default Re: Do No-Contact Orders Apply Outside the Country

    We're missing some key details here - because that's just not how WA does things.

    For one thing, a third party cannot obtain such an order unless there is a problem with mental competence.

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    We're missing some key details here - because that's just not how WA does things.

    For one thing, a third party cannot obtain such an order unless there is a problem with mental competence.
    Mental competence? What do you mean?

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