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All I want is a copy of my payroll times. Section 226 specifically says "records" and 1198.5 says "personnel records".

I understand its hard to give me a direct answer since no one knows the specific details of my situation, so I think I'll just wait the 30 days just to be safe.
Actually, it's not hard at all to give you a direct answer now that you've specified that you only want your "payroll times."

Section 226 applies to payroll records. Read 226 (a) for a description of payroll records:

http://law.onecle.com/california/labor/226.html

Seems clear now that the 21 day time limit applies requests for payroll information and the penalties are different.