Are Joint Custody and 50/50 Custody the Same Thing

[Mr. Knowitall]

You are talking about agreements outside of court, you can write anything on a sheet of loose leaf paper and follow it, that doesn't make it a custody order

You need to learn to read.

When you are talking about 'being in the drivers' you are talking about decision making, that is LEGAL custody.

As usual, you are proving that you would lose a battle of the wits with a bag of hammers.

No, it is simply not the case that physical custody does not involve decision-making relating to the child. Not in any state.

You don't know what you are talking about.

I believe some members here are found of pointing people to the Illinois parenting time guideline as something to review, that's just not a thorough as the Arizona guidelines.

Your incorrect belief being duly noted, Illinois law doesn't apply either.

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Anti father? That's neat. I'm usually accused of being biased towards the fathers.

He did the same thing under his other ID. When he was challenged for making incorrect statements he went straight to ad hominem attacks.

[Dogmatique]

He might want to Google "Indiana Parenting Guidelines". I know "Illinois" starts with the same letter, but yeah.

[Dogmatique]

Let's clarify: A parent with SOLE legal custody is safe making major decisions without the other parent's consent. That is not the case with joint legal custody. Yes, it is difference and yes, it's important to clarify. And we haven't even started on the veto issue.

With that said, whether it's sole legal or joint, each parent can make the day-to-day decisions.

[Dogmatique]

You could always spend a month or so in each state to learn how and when different states may use different terminology.

If you're having difficulty with this topic, see if there's a local law library.

[SuperPop]

You could always spend a month or so in each state to learn how and when different states may use different terminology.

If you're having difficulty with this topic, see if there's a local law library.

Do you believe this is a productive comment? Does it touch on the main topic or add anything to the discussion? Or, is it really just being snarky to be snarky?

[Dogmatique]

Do you believe this is a productive comment? Does it touch on the main topic or add anything to the discussion? Or, is it really just being snarky to be snarky?

It was actually an attempt (fruitless, it seems) to convince you to spend some time learning the differences between the states.

I'll give you an example: In my (rather wonderful) state, you can have what is essentially a 50/50 timeshare (as in there's a legal document outlining parenting time) and still be still deemed as the primary parent. The reasoning behind it? I have no idea. Perhaps the theory is that one parent is going to have an extra day each year so while they have such a timeshare, one parent remains the primary.

Then you have Texas, where even the basic terms are changed (which makes the whole thing so much fun).

[SuperPop]

It was actually an attempt (fruitless, it seems) to convince you to spend some time learning the differences between the states.

I'll give you an example: In my (rather wonderful) state, you can have what is essentially a 50/50 timeshare (as in there's a legal document outlining parenting time) and still be still deemed as the primary parent. The reasoning behind it? I have no idea. Perhaps the theory is that one parent is going to have an extra day each year so while they have such a timeshare, one parent remains the primary.

Then you have Texas, where even the basic terms are changed (which makes the whole thing so much fun).

NY is kind of like that....When you apply for child support, even when you have a True 50/50 parenting plan, even if it specifically says 'joint physical custody' in the Custody order, they must designate one parent or the other as 'primary' in the child support order, with a true 50/50 plan, that parent is designated by income....But, i think it differs from what you described above because, it doesn't change the custody order, it's just the way it has to be spelled out in the support order, which is a seperate order.

[Dogmatique]

When both parents have similar incomes, a true 50/50 split will generally rule out child support.

If one parent earns $135k/year and the other earns $40k/year, the parent who earns more will likely end up owing the CP support despite a the actual timeshare.

And that can go the other way, too - the CP can end up paying CS regardless of the timeshare. Then we look at the shared-income model which shifts things around.

Such fun, isn't it?

[mmmagique]

My daughters mother and I were unmarried when we went to court, Daughter was 8 months old once Paternity was established, Mother had Status Quo. At first(daughter 13 months) i was awarded two overnights and 1 dinner, then went back when daughter was between 2&3, i was awarded EOW and Tuesday Overnights, Went back again a couple years later, I requested 60/40, we were awarded 50/50, week on/week off.

You're right, my case is irrelevant. It just goes to show my legal experience....do you have ANY legal experience? You're not OhioGAL are you?

Dad can absolutely get ANY of those schedules! It just depends on how hard he is willing to fight.

FR: She's not Ohiogal, but it's obvious who you are...(the man with a thousand names)

[SuperPop]

the man with a thousand names

I like that! If the admin 'over Yonder' ever removes my IP ban, i may use that name!