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    Default Contacting the Family of Someone You Have a No-Contact Order Against

    My question involves criminal law for the state of: Washington

    I currently have a No-contact order from someone, so I know I cannot contact them or be around them in any way, or try to see them etc. My question pertains to being in contact with their family, and more specifically a parent. This parent does not live with the person I have the order against, in fact, they live overseas. They have been asking me what is going on because the person I have the order against is ignoring the parent. The terms on the order are as follows:

    I don't know if contacting the parents counts as "contacting through a third party" but the parent knows me very well and I am not sure if I should ignore.

    Defendant:
    A. do not cause, attempt, or threaten to cause bodily injury to, assault, sexually assault, harass, stalk, or keep under surveillance the protected person.
    B. do not contact the protected person, directly, indirectly, in person or through others, by phone, mail, or electronic means, except for mailing or service of process of court documents through a third party, or contact by the defendant’s lawyers.
    C. do not knowingly enter, remain, or come within________ (1,000 feet if no distance entered) of the protected person’s residence, school, workplace, other:

    So is it okay for me to talk with the parent?

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    I wouldn't. And I live in WA.

    Depending on your commissioner, this may well be considered wrongful third party contact. If they want know what's going on, it's their problem.

    Don't make it yours.

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    Default Re: Contacting the Family of Someone You Have a No-Contact Order Against

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    I wouldn't. And I live in WA.

    Depending on your commissioner, this may well be considered wrongful third party contact. If they want know what's going on, it's their problem.

    Don't make it yours.
    Well, I am a good friend of their family and everything. That's why I am wondering. Also then, is it violating the order if my parents contact them without my consent? The other day my parents told me they talked with the person I have a no-contact order against, and they talked to their parents, because the person I have the order against contacted my parents and everything. I didn't tell the to do anything, in fact I didn't know until a couple of days after the fact.

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    No, seriously - good friend or not, stop it. Do you realize how often we see people "trapped" into third party contact? Your parents need to stand back, too. Let this run its course. There is no reason at all for you to jeopardize yourself further and that includes your parents, his/her parents, friends, overseas relatives.

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    I suggest not doing it. It sounds like i is harmless, but when a OOP is in play, you need to understand that the Complainint has issues with you and is expecting her family to side with her. Even if your intentions are purely genuine, the victim won't see it that way and may make life very difficult for you.

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    Real world example from the right hand part of the state:

    Restrained party is contacted by sibling of protected party to ask how their child (child of restrained and protected parties) is doing. Child is not mentioned in the order, btw.

    Protected party finds out, and trots right back to court.

    Restrained party receives good old tongue-lashing, and commissioner explains very very clearly exactly what is meant by "no third party contact".

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    Default Re: Contacting the Family of Someone You Have a No-Contact Order Against

    Okay, finally, one more thing. SO no family, or anything. We also share some of the same friends. Am I even allowed to communicate with them? I live with one of this person friends. Some of the friends we have are the same (well actually most of them since i introduced this person to all of my friends). So most of my friends are also their friends, and I live with one of them. Can't I even talk with them?

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    Communicating with mutually known people is generally okay.

    As long as the protected party is not mentioned, hinted at, discussed, insulted, praised...you get the point

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    My state will arrest on a violation of the order and at times, implement a GPS monitor on the order. Friends are generally ok as stated earlier.

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    Err on the side of caution, lest you find yourself explaining yourself to a judge after a few nights in jail.

    Treat the protected party and the relatives and the friends as poison to you.

    The cops won't ask for an explanation, they'll just haul you away once a complaint is made.

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