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    Default My Class Schedule is Not Convenient

    My question involves an education/consumer law issue in the State of: Ohio
    I apologize in advance as I am writing this very quickly...

    Hi, I attend a public university where I pay over $5,000 a semester and am told I essentially have no real choice over my class schedule for next semester. I am in the nursing program and for some reason scheduling does not work like it does for the rest of the university. They schedule your courses and what you get is what you get! I am a commuter (on average 40 mins) and work, as well as have a one weekend a month reserve military commitment. I am concerned about driving conditions in the winter during early morning and would like a schedule to fit my needs. I told them I didnt want them to create any special classes for me, but that I just wished to be allowed to work within the system. Meaning that if a later morning class is available, I would like to take it instead of the 7:30 am one, as the roads would be better in the winter months at later hours. And there seems no sense having the worry or the liability of driving on dark, icy roads when there are later classes offered and when I pay good money to attend the school. I am not the best or most comfortable driver and I have a small vehicle (small tires and definitely no 4 wheel drive). Now I requested classes early and I have one of the earliest registration dates/slots university-wide. If every other class at the university is scheduled on a first come first serve basis (of course there are sometimes major restrictions and having certain prerequisite courses), why is the nursing program not the same way? I was not informed of this before applying to the program and now feel trapped! As I have two semesters of courses taken at this college and the nursing ones will not transfer to another school of course. So I feel like I either transfer schools and waste money, or put up with the fact that I have essentially no choice in my education here. I am at the mercy to the whims and capricious decisions of nursing staff, whether they want to grant my request for the next three years or not...not based on any university wide policy. And when I met with the program course coordinator she was by no means understanding and even had the audacity to compare my situation to hers....she told me that she commutes so and so minutes to work. I attempted to tactfully point out to her that I understand, however, she gets paid a decent salary to be there, whereas I PAY them $5000 plus to be there. It's not the same situation. I should have some right to choose a schedule that fits around my wants and needs, no? What am I paying for? This school claims to be a commuter friendly school but I don't see it so far. Am I not a customer and are they not providing a service, in this case education? I am frustrated and wish to know what my rights are as a student? Thank you and I appreciate your reply.

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    Default Re: Student Rights

    Your right as a student is to attend the classes when they are scheduled.

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    Your right as a student is to attend the classes when they are scheduled.
    Or attend a different school if one is available.

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    Should you have some rights? Not necessarily. If that is how they operate their program then that is how they operate.

    I hate to say it but if you have this much of an issue with a simple scheduling that doesn't fit your desires, you are really going to hate the real working world of nursing. Maybe something like a millionaires wife where you can expect others to bow to your scheduling desires is more inline with your personality.

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    You have rights!!! You have the right to rent a dorm room instead of driving through the winter. If you qualify, you can rent off campus.

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    Yes, you pay them good money. But, they must also select class sizes and times that are conducive to the goals of the program. It may well be in their best interest to pre-program certain types of courses in the first few semesters to make sure they are completed as they might be prerequisites for future ones. It might also be possible that not every course is offered every semester and in order to keep you from having to extend your education for another year or more while you wait for that needed class to come back around, they have things structured in a cycle that works for them. There are a host of reasons why they do not offer a free and open registration for classes within the nursing program, but they most likely have to do with maintaining the continuity of the program so that the maximum number of students can be processed in the shortest amount of time.

    And as for distance, well, that's the way the cookie crumbles. I know people that commute an hour to college and they have to change work and driving schedules every semester as a result of class availability, driving time, etc. While ice is not always a consideration, traffic in the morning is. And, of course, work. Going to school is a real bitch! I know! Been there, done that, completed grad school while working 50-60+ hours per week, and going back for more, soon. So, consider it character building. Yeah, it's a pain, but, do you have any alternative programs near you?

    The bottom line is that you can either choose to work within the program or find another school. It might also have benefited you to have looked more deeply into the program before you signed up.

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    I should have some right to choose a schedule that fits around my wants and needs, no?
    In a nutshell?

    NO.

    You chose a competitive program with rigid standards. When you do that, you take what you get, whether you like it or not. You are NOT a customer of the university, you are someone who is seeking a bit of paper to certify you to perform to certain standards, and when you do that, you do it on the terms of the university, not yours.

    I'm not altogether unsympathetic. I dual majored in German and Secondary Ed., and minored in French, and worked multiple jobs while I was at it. My classes were when my classes were, and I could either show up or not, and take my lumps accordingly. Know what I did? I showed the hell up, because I was paying really HARD EARNED money to be there, and living on pizza and ramen to do it.

    Welcome to adulthood. Please keep all limbs in the car until the ride comes to a complete and final stop.

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    Wait until OP finds out they must go to work when scheduled instead of when they want to.

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    Wait until OP finds out they must go to work when scheduled instead of when they want to.
    Heh. That's why I'm self-employed. Hard to do that as a nurse, though, if you want to pay the bills. People being sick not amenable to flexibility, you know.

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    I trained as a teacher. They DELIBERATELY scheduled mandatory courses at 8:00 am, so that we'd be used to having to report to class early once we were teaching and not being taught.

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