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    Default Disorderly Conduct Charge or Posting a Sign that Includes a Swear Word

    I was told by my husband to hang a sign on a wall on our property that said "stay off our roof and stop cutting our ****ing tree". My husband looked up cases before asking me to do this to make sure it was legal, he read cases on Cohen vs. California and Robert J Ekas. He found out although in may be unappropriated it is well within our 1st and 14th constitutional rights. I hung the sign. 8 hours later a neighbor came to my door stating he ripped the sign down and then continued to yell and scream at me and my husband . I called the police and asked that my neighbor be charged with destruction of property, theft and disorderly conduct. When the police showed up, they refused to arrest my neighbor and instead arrested me for disorderly conduct simply on the grounds of hanging a sign that says "****ing tree" on it. I am pleading an obvious not guilty. This kind of treatment towards us has been going on for 8 years. The police have illegally blocked my right of freedom of speech under the 1st and 14th amendment of the constitution and are now prosecuting me for exercising those rights.This happened in St. Johns, AZ

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    I was told by my husband to hang a sign on a wall on our property that said "stay off our roof and stop cutting our ****ing tree". My husband looked up cases before asking me to do this to make sure it was legal, he read cases on Cohen vs. California and Robert J Ekas. He found out although in may be unappropriated it is well within our 1st and 14th constitutional rights. I hung the sign. 8 hours later a neighbor came to my door stating he ripped the sign down and then continued to yell and scream at me and my husband . I called the police and asked that my neighbor be charged with destruction of property, theft and disorderly conduct. When the police showed up, they refused to arrest my neighbor and instead arrested me for disorderly conduct simply on the grounds of hanging a sign that says "****ing tree" on it. I am pleading an obvious not guilty. This kind of treatment towards us has been going on for 8 years. The police have illegally blocked my right of freedom of speech under the 1st and 14th amendment of the constitution and are now prosecuting me for exercising those rights.This happened in St. Johns, AZ
    I guess it is okay for you to scream fire in a crowded theatre as well, huh

    You didn't have to use profanity. You could have been more civil and there wouldn't have been an issue.

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    Default Re: Police Stopped Me from Exercising My Constitutional Rights then Arrested Me for I

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    I guess it is okay for you to scream fire in a crowded theatre as well, huh
    You do realize the "Fire in a crowded theater" quote was from a SCOTUS ruling in favor of arresting a WWI anti-draft protestor right?

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    I was told by my husband to hang a sign on a wall on our property that said "stay off our roof and stop cutting our ****ing tree". My husband looked up cases before asking me to do this to make sure it was legal, he read cases on Cohen vs. California and Robert J Ekas. He found out although in may be unappropriated it is well within our 1st and 14th constitutional rights. I hung the sign. 8 hours later a neighbor came to my door stating he ripped the sign down and then continued to yell and scream at me and my husband . I called the police and asked that my neighbor be charged with destruction of property, theft and disorderly conduct. When the police showed up, they refused to arrest my neighbor and instead arrested me for disorderly conduct simply on the grounds of hanging a sign that says "****ing tree" on it. I am pleading an obvious not guilty. This kind of treatment towards us has been going on for 8 years. The police have illegally blocked my right of freedom of speech under the 1st and 14th amendment of the constitution and are now prosecuting me for exercising those rights.This happened in St. Johns, AZ

    So many people misunderstand the concept of "Freedom of speech".

    The Constitution protects you from the Government thwarting your speech.

    The rest of us mere mortals? Well, you can say what you want. But you must understand that there may be consequences for doing so.

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    Default Re: Police Stopped Me from Exercising My Constitutional Rights then Arrested Me for I

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    So many people misunderstand the concept of "Freedom of speech".

    The Constitution protects you from the Government thwarting your speech.

    The rest of us mere mortals? Well, you can say what you want. But you must understand that there may be consequences for doing so.
    Whoa whoa whoa...since when is the princess of the underworld mortal

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    (It's my day off )

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    Default Re: Police Stopped Me from Exercising My Constitutional Rights then Arrested Me for I

    Antigone, on the contrary, One mans profanity is another mans lyrics, We all have the right and we all need to test it . Otherwise we will loose it.

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    Antigone, on the contrary, One mans profanity is another mans lyrics, We all have the right and we all need to test it . Otherwise we will loose it.
    Doesn't matter - you still have to face possible consequences for your actions.

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    Antigone, on the contrary, One mans profanity is another mans lyrics, We all have the right and we all need to test it . Otherwise we will loose it.
    So I'm going to test you here, tell me how you like these lyrics:

    Loose is what happens to your bowels after eating greasy food. Lose is what happens when something you once had is gone.


    Oh, and you still have no case

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    Default Re: Police Stopped Me from Exercising My Constitutional Rights then Arrested Me for I

    Otherwise we will loose it.
    Is that like "Loose the hounds of Hell"? (Seriously, it's "lose".)

    And no, you're not going to lose your ability to swear if you don't plaster it on a sign. I'm quite creatively profane when I want to be - and I often want to be - but there is a time and a place, and gratuitous vulgarity for vulgarity's sake out of some misguided "use it or lose it" philosophy quite certainly can and should cause you some trouble. You are not the Great Free Speech Crusader you fancy yourself to be, simply by dint of dropping an F-bomb in a publicly viewable place.

    You've caught heat for your behavior for 8 years now? Stop acting like a bag of festering assholes, and you won't have that problem any more. (See what I did there?) The notion that "freedom of speech" somehow absolves you of the consequences of your speech is absurd.

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