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    Default Red Light Camera Ticket in Santa Clarita, California

    My question involves a traffic ticket from the state of: CA

    Red light camera ticket in Valencia, Santa Clarita. Which is part of L.A. county but it has it's own jurisdiction !

    So I asked for an extension on line, it's due mid September.

    It's a real ticket. All the signs are there, the 3 secs for yellow lights are right on...etc

    Does anyone know anyone that has won in Santa Clarita ? if so, how ?

    if not, what do the experts (you) recommend, TBD or in person ?

    Thank you very much

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    Default Re: Red Light Camera Ticket in Santa Clarita, California

    What did you see in the photos and video? You need to tell us if there's a plausible defense.

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    Default Re: Red Light Camera Ticket in Santa Clarita, California

    Is any information imprinted on the video and/or pics? Then one could argue it's providing probative information and is testimonial in nature .. this would then require testimony prior to its admittance into evidence at your trial.

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    Default Re: Red Light Camera Ticket in Santa Clarita, California

    Everything in the ticket seems within specs. If you are willing to review it I'll scan it and post it.
    I was thinkin more along the lines in arguing the fact that I cant cross examine anybody.
    thanks for your input

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    Default Re: Red Light Camera Ticket in Santa Clarita, California

    Quote Quoting fer0175
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    Everything in the ticket seems within specs. If you are willing to review it I'll scan it and post it.
    I was thinkin more along the lines in arguing the fact that I cant cross examine anybody.
    thanks for your input
    It seems you have no defense. Fact of the matter is, you violated some provision of law and are placed in a position where you must answer to the charge. Instead, you are looking at it from a stand point where it is their responsibility to have to comply with "specs". But lets assume that is the proper approach, once it gets to a point where you've established they were in compliance, you would be hard pressed to be able to come up with anything to write in your TBD and/or anything to present in court, and regardless of which way you might look at it, this is what you're looking at:

    A 96+ % chance the officer will appear to present the city's case which means a 2 % chance your case might be continued to another date and/or a 2 % chance it might be dismissed. This implies a 98 % chance that you will be found guilty and the entire amount you posted as bail will be converted to the fine and retained by the court. At that point, traffic school becomes a questionable possibility...

    Versus

    A good chance that your fine will be reduced if you were to appear at the arraignment and plead guilty. Assuming you are eligible a 100 % chance that you can take traffic school and get this violation point to get concealed from your public record.

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    I was thinkin more along the lines in arguing the fact that I cant cross examine anybody.
    For starters, how are you able to cross examine anyone if you were to elect a TBD? So to write a TBD about not being able to cross examine anyone sounds fruitless, does it not?... Simply because you couldn't if you tried. But more importantly, in a court trial setting where you ARE able to cross examine someone if you want, you CAN IN FACT cross examine "your accuser", the citing officer who issued the ticket.

    That is the only person you can claim any entitlement to being able to cross examine. Considering the fact and the great likelihood that he has testified in hundreds of these cases, whereas this is your first court trial, the prospects that you will prevail are minute!

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    Default Re: Red Light Camera Ticket in Santa Clarita, California

    The very first step for Fer and anyone else in California who receives a photo ticket in the mail:

    Check to see if it is a Snitch Ticket, the fake/phishing camera tickets California police send out to bluff car owners into ID'ing the actual driver. Snitch Tickets say, at the top, "Courtesy Notice-This is not a ticket," and you can ignore them! Skeptical? Google: Snitch Ticket.

    Been to the LA area? Even a REAL red light camera ticket from ANY city in LA County can be ignored, as the LA courts do not report ignored camera tickets to the DMV. This was revealed in LA Times articles in 2011. Skeptical? Google: Red light camera no consequence.

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