http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152930
I'm referring to this thread as it irritates me how people go off telling people that they are retarded blah blah blah. NO ONE in the USA is required to conform to any licencing, registering, laws, statutes, etc. People posting that crap obviously havent picked up a law dictionary in their life. The supreme court has stated:
"The term 'motor vehicle' is different and broader that the word 'automobile'." City of Dayton v. Debrosse, 23 NE.2d 647, 650; 60 Ohio App. 232.
“Where Rights secured by the Constitution are involved there can be no rule-making or legislation, which would abrogate them” Miranda v. Arizona (1966) 384 U.S. 436, 86 S. Ct. 1602, 16 L. Ed. 2d 694, 10 ALR 3rd 974 and 59 other ALR treatises .
“The claim and exercise of a constitutional right can not be converted into a crime.” Miller v. U.S., 230 F 2d 486, 489.
“There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of his exercise of constitutional Rights.” Sherar v. Cullen, 481 F. 945.
“No state shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and attach a fee to it.” Murdock v. Pennsylvania http://www.lawyerdude.8k.com/murdock.html 319 U.S. 262.
“If the state converts a liberty into a privilege the citizen can engage in the right with impunity.” Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham http://www.lawyerdude.8m.com/5090.html 373 U.S. 262.
“If you've relied on prior decisions of the Supreme Court you have a perfect defense for willfulness.” U.S. v. Bishop, 412 U.S. 346.
What the SUPREME COURT SAYS is the law. No other court can change that unless through due process. Which hasnt been done. Yes, Ohio says motor vehicle is whatever they want to say it is but guess what, the Supreme court said what it is and they have no authority to override the Supreme courts ruling. BUT it is your job to ensure these public servants dont take what they feel or think is law and do as they please.
Furthermore, NO ONE has to apply for a right, it is unalienable, god given and yours from day one. So go away trolls of misinformed people. "But DRIVING isnt a right", no, driving is not, traveling is. There are tons of other cases that people have fought and won on this very subject. For instance Charlie Sprinkle vs Ronald Ragen is another. The LEGAL definition of DRIVER is conducting commerce, transportation of persons or goods, or while employed. Which isnt what the common person does. They travel in their Automobile which we earn with our own sweat and blood at our job and we transport guests in this automobile. Learn the words, learn the truth or shut up and be silent. Here is some more to read trolls:
"The use of the highway for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common fundamental right of which the public and individuals cannot rightfully be deprived." Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 221.
"The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit or permit at will, but a common law right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 579.
"The right to travel is a part of the liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the Fifth Amendment." Kent v. Dulles, 357 US 116, 125.
"The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right." Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941.
And dont trust a Lawyer of any BAR association, do you really think they have your best interest in mind. Look up what the BAR really is.....

