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  1. #51
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    Default Re: Violation of a Juvenile Restraining Order As an Adult

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    I have no criminal adult record and my juvenile record is sealed.
    Really? When did you apply to have it sealed?

    I would not be doing anything illegal.
    If you continue to contact her, you very well could be. Do you really want to run that risk?

    The jury should be any defendant's main concern.
    A heap of arrests and police contacts would also be any rational adult's concern ... unless he does not care about gainful employment in the future.


    From the ACLU's website

    IF THE POLICE OR IMMIGRATION AGENTS COME TO YOUR HOME
    If the police or immigration agents come to your home, you do not have to let them in unless they have certain kinds of warrants.
    You stated that the police could not arrest you at your home - that's completely wrong. That's a different issue from being allowed inside or having good cause to force entry.

    I've never seen a job application that requested knowledge of a misdemeanor conviction nor anyone disqualified from candidacy for a position due to a misdemeanor. And you should distinguish between a job and a career and you'll have your answer.
    I have. As I said, it depends on the offense. Theft offenses - even misdemeanors - will be a reason to not hire someone in the retail industry, and since it is also a crime of moral turpitude it can be used as good cause not to hire for a great many positions. Then there are misdemeanor offenses of violence or drugs, and jobs/careers that require people to be around kids, etc. It all depends. To say that misdemeanors do not count is wholly inaccurate.

    Okay, this is getting old. I know that you are a teenage boy and you have to be right. I have four of them at home, and they are 19. 18, 17, and 13 and they all have to be right. I understand it. So, I'll let you post the last word on the matter and I will pray that you are not as impulsive and reckless as you sound and that you truly avoid this girl and do not test your contention that you are smarter than the rest of the world. You won't be the first teenager in history to think that and try to test it, and you won't be the last. Sadly, I arrest a great many like that. And many find themselves with criminal records as a result of their egos and the fact that they had just enough knowledge to THINK they knew what they were talking about.

    Good luck.

  2. #52

    Default Re: Violation of a Juvenile Restraining Order As an Adult

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    And at the age of 19 you have seen SO many job applications from SO many employers.
    It's the facts of life

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    Default Re: Violation of a Juvenile Restraining Order As an Adult

    No, it's what a know-it-all 19 year old thinks are the facts of life.

    I have spent quite a few years as a hiring manager and have seen more employment applications than you've had hot dinners. Don't try to play in my ball park, little boy, I'll tear strips out of you.

  4. #54

    Default Re: Violation of a Juvenile Restraining Order As an Adult

    Are the positions you are reviewing these applications for careers or jobs?

    You've reviewed over 7,000 applications?

    And if they are jobs opposed to careers do misdemeanor convictions always come up 100% of the time? And are misdemeanor convictions really a big deterring factor in hiring someone? Anyone can get a misdemeanor on their record pretty easily, someone could miss a traffic court date and subsequently be convicted of a Failure To Appear misdemeanor, and subject
    To your apparent additional scrutiny.

    I don't believe that employers hiring people for jobs (such as cashiering at a restaurant or business, waiter/waitress, and so on) take misdemeanors into terrible, if any additional scrutiny, I'd like to believe that positions such as these are based almost entirely on performance. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Default Re: Violation of a Juvenile Restraining Order As an Adult

    What's your definition of career, versus job?

    I'm genuinely interested.

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    What's your definition of career, versus job?

    I'm genuinely interested.
    Jobs and career are different in almost every sense. Where job is considered just as a person who puts time and energy in return of money, career is considered as something a person puts his heart and soul into. Jobs are also changeable, where a person who is working as a salesman could be hired as a manager or a CEO. However, career is something that a person does his whole live, the person would be in management services, which would be a career. Best example for the difference between a job and career is a doctor. Being a doctor would be the individual’s career; however he may have served over 30 hospitals. Each time the doctor changed a hospital, he would change his job, but he would always remain a doctor. Careers are also not specified to providing monetary benefit, if a person wishes to become a volunteer or a social helper, he/she may not always get money for what they do.

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    Default Re: Violation of a Juvenile Restraining Order As an Adult

    Ah.

    You would, of course, be incorrect.

    What you're talking about is a "vocation".

  8. #58

    Default Re: Violation of a Juvenile Restraining Order As an Adult

    That's not my wording that's from: http://www.differencebetween.info/di...job-and-career

    I'd say that a job can if course turn into a career such as if an individual worked at McDonald's for many years and eventually advanced to management or with Best buy or anywhere, but at face value for the time being it is still a job and not a career

    But to which I was referring when I initially was speaking a meant a career as being something that you go into after many previous jobs and you work for a salary and it would usually require a skill set or training or a formal degree.

    Does that make sense?

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    Default Re: Violation of a Juvenile Restraining Order As an Adult

    Lastworditis

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    What? lol

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