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    Because i read that during Stalin's rule that he banned weapons and that the 3rd reich in Germany also banned weapons. Is gun control constitional are not?

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    Default Re: Are Weapons Laws Constitutional?

    Some are; others have been reversed by the courts.

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    you think Stalin was bound by the US constitution?

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    Because i read that during Stalin's rule that he banned weapons and that the 3rd reich in Germany also banned weapons. Is gun control constitional are not?
    gun control is absolutely constitutional. any law is control of some type. without gun control you would have folks running all over with guns a blazin'. gun control is merely a sign of a modicum of sanity within our society.

    Now if you are asking of outlawing (banning) guns, that is a specific question that has its' own answer.

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    gun control is absolutely constitutional. any law is control of some type. without gun control you would have folks running all over with guns a blazin'. gun control is merely a sign of a modicum of sanity within our society.

    Now if you are asking of outlawing (banning) guns, that is a specific question that has its' own answer.
    What about the handgun ban in DC? It was overruled by a federal court.

    I would think any gun law put in effect would technically be "infringement" on constitutional rights.

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    This is an old thread but I would like to respond to your statement.

    You have made a mistake in the meaning of my post. While I speak of control, you speak of bans. Control does not mean banning gun ownership, it merely means there are laws to control the ownership or use of guns. Totally legal and actually welcomed by all but the most extreme.

    as with anything you do in this country, there are laws that limit your actions. Without that, we would have anarchy, which is not a welcome situation.

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    This is an old thread but I would like to respond to your statement.

    You have made a mistake in the meaning of my post. While I speak of control, you speak of bans. Control does not mean banning gun ownership, it merely means there are laws to control the ownership or use of guns. Totally legal and actually welcomed by all but the most extreme.

    as with anything you do in this country, there are laws that limit your actions. Without that, we would have anarchy, which is not a welcome situation.
    Well i Read in the Middle Ages there was a law that was "Droit Du Seiger" that stated that a King had the "Right" to deflower virgins, and there was supposedly some law called the sumptuary law that stated that Peasants couldn't wear the same colors associated with "Nobles" under pain of death{Like the color green,purple,blue},and there was supposedly a law written in 1337 A.D. that prohibited people from adopting the customs,language, or culture of the Irish,and there was a law written by Torquemada in 1492 A.D. that ordered all Jews out of Spain that wasn't repealed until the 1920's, And there was a law called "Divine Right of Kings" that stated that the king could do no wrong. and in like the 1920's there was something like Prohibition,And as late as 2003 A.D. it was illegal in many states be be gay before Law Vs.Texas, And it seems we're treating the Federal Government like kings,believing that they can do no wrong.

    Just because there are laws doesn't mean that they are always just.

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    ok, if you want to play it that way, why don;t we remove all traffic laws. Afer all, they do oppress me and my right to drive like an idiot.

    How about legalizing drugs. Again, my rights are oppressed.

    The bottom line is laws are a neccessary part of a civilized society.

    many of the laws you cited were simply laws to support the rights of a specific class at the detriment of others. Obviously they were not just laws.

    Gun laws do not do this. They are simply there to put restrictions on what you can do with this deadly weapon. There are no gun bans in the US except the restriction placed on people, such as convicted felons, who have proven themselves untrustworthy.

    as I said, several times; I am not for a gun ban but I am for laws that make our country a safer place. It is a fine line to walk but at the moment, I believe we are still not unjustly or unneedingly restricting citizen rights (as far as gun ownership)

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    ok, if you want to play it that way, why don;t we remove all traffic laws. Afer all, they do oppress me and my right to drive like an idiot.

    How about legalizing drugs. Again, my rights are oppressed.

    The bottom line is laws are a neccessary part of a civilized society.

    many of the laws you cited were simply laws to support the rights of a specific class at the detriment of others. Obviously they were not just laws.

    Gun laws do not do this. They are simply there to put restrictions on what you can do with this deadly weapon. There are no gun bans in the US except the restriction placed on people, such as convicted felons, who have proven themselves untrustworthy.

    as I said, several times; I am not for a gun ban but I am for laws that make our country a safer place. It is a fine line to walk but at the moment, I believe we are still not unjustly or unneedingly restricting citizen rights (as far as gun ownership)


    How about this quote from Samuel Adams on Judical Tyranny: [I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation [support], they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.

    Footnote: lnterestingly, almost a decade before the American Revolution, Samuel Adams had been one of the first to point out the abuses of the British judiciary in America. He long condemned the fact that British judges did not receive their salaries from the Legislature and, therefore, were not accountable to the people. He also complained that the terms of British judges were not limited to the duration of good behavior, thus meaning they could continue to serve even if they usurped the rights of the citizens. Very simply, Adams saw the English judiciary as a branch completely unaccountable to the people. Significantly, both of these complaints by Adams against the British judiciary were specifically incorporated in the U.S. Constitution to prevent a similar abuse of American judicial powers.

    In fact, the Founders recognized that if national policies are enforced which lack popular support, the people will come to despise, and eventually resist, their government. As Luther Martin explained at the Constitutional Convention:

    From Thomas Jefferson: You seem... to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions; a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men and not more so. They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps. [A]nd their power the more dangerous as they are in office for life and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal.

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    Default Re: Are Weapons Laws Constitutional

    but you make a mistake with all this and I have said it before:

    gun control laws are constitutional

    the public in general does support gun control laws


    there is a difference between gun control and gun banishment.
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    gun control is needed and desired just the same as any other law that is designed to afford the genreal public some level of safety and security.

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