Assault, Apprehension, and Immediacy

[untouchedworld]

You use the word maybe, but no police report was made.

No, I'm not, because a police report was only made after the boyfriend broke up with his girlfriend.
If you're scared of someone, report them. It's that simple. Otherwise, the person does not feel the injury of what occurred, whether it be psychological or physical.

1) Lack of a police report
2) Lack of reaction by the alleged victim
3) Responses of positive feelings by the alleged victim toward the boyfriend after the boyfriend was out of town
4) Responses of negative feelings only after the girlfriend talks to her friends
5) A police report after the boyfriend breaks up with her

In the police report, the ex-girlfriend forgot to mention that he broke up with her.

No police report of the alleged assault means that no assault occurred unless the person was prevented from reporting the issue.
It's not like people cannot use their cellphones. It's not like telephones don't exist. It's not like the boyfriend kept her locked up or kept surveillance on her.

The alleged assault is a lie.

No intent = no guilty mind

The girlfriend has a history of being in a household with alleged domestic violence, it is believed that she has a tolerance to domestic violence or else she was truly not in immediate apprehension of harm. The girlfriend also grew up around a bad part of town where there is a fair amount of domestic violence and criminal activity: gangs, drugs, etc... It's only a few blocks away from the projects.


Personally, in reference to my perspective of the hypothetical scenario.

I'm not comprehending the real issue, because I come from a background where I've lived with a multiple felon for over 20 years. If he causes hell, he gets the police called on him ASAP. He confronted me against a wall, whereby I had no escape, asking where his social security check was once when I was 15, alone in the home, and he was cracked out. I called the police while he was but 6 feet away from me once I got free from him.

I'm no stranger to the idea of making a police report. I've had police reports made immediately on me for alleged assault and battery. I've been confronted by police and talked my way out of situations.

From my knowledge of having been around plenty of criminals, what I see is a person who took revenge on another person by making a police report after the boyfriend broke up with the girlfriend.

No, I don't see the issue here, because there was no police report made when the girlfriend was safe from harm in order to report it. If the girlfriend felt safe enough to talk to her friends about it, then she would have felt safe enough to report it to the police.

The issue here, as I've written about, is assault, apprehension, and immediacy.

[Dogmatique]

If the girlfriend felt safe enough to talk to her friends about it, then she would have felt safe enough to report it to the police.

This tells me that you don't understand the issue at all.

And that's not your fault, necessarily. But your hypothetical is fatally flawed if only for this reason.

[viol8te]

And also

The alleged assault is a lie.

No intent = no guilty mind

You keep basing your argument on what he felt, not the impression that he gave. If I had a cap gun during a robbery, it's obvious to me that I had no intention of shooting someone. The victim however, had no idea what my intentions were.

[mmmagique]

LEAVE BRITNEY (or whatever your ex's name is) ALONE!!

She doesn't want anything else to do with you.

Stop obsessing and move on. It's really your only choice if you want to stay out of some type of facility. (the kind where you don't move about freely)

[untouchedworld]

LEAVE BRITNEY (or whatever your ex's name is) ALONE!!

She doesn't want anything else to do with you.

Stop obsessing and move on. It's really your only choice if you want to stay out of some type of facility. (the kind where you don't move about freely)

A defendant has the right to argue for his or her rights, freedom, and liberty. The defendant has a right to argue against a plaintiff for slander, libel, or false accusation of domestic abuse. When you suggest that a defendant leave the plaintiff alone, you are suggesting that the defendant forfeit, as though it is right to allow victims to believe they are victims without being argued that they are not victims and instead frauds who make false accusations of domestic violence. That does not do justice, and it can give rise to further false allegations of domestic violence against the innocent if the alleged victim develops a learned behavior to do such.

In many matters, defendants are not given a legal representative to argue a case. As such, there is an absence of defense. Although an absence of defense does equate with other factors to criminal liability, it is not the sole factor in criminal liability.

And also

You keep basing your argument on what he felt, not the impression that he gave. If I had a cap gun during a robbery, it's obvious to me that I had no intention of shooting someone. The victim however, had no idea what my intentions were.

This is a different subject, whereby a gun is being used. The victim does not know if the gun is loaded or not. Furthermore, you've already said that the intent is to rob, thus to induce the victim to do something otherwise apprehend immediate harm, which makes the defendant liable for intent, thus proving assault. The attendant circumstances are typical and obvious.

This tells me that you don't understand the issue at all.

And that's not your fault, necessarily. But your hypothetical is fatally flawed if only for this reason.

Then go ahead and explain how the hypothetical is flawed. You make a claim without a premise.

[viol8te]

Are you serious?!? Pulling out the knife was the biggest indicator. You already premised this by saying she was in apprehension. Whether that was your intent or not (and based by your furtherance of antagonizing, it was,) it was clearly to state a point. I'm done. You got enough help with trying to beat this domestic. Hopefully, you will be coming out Cook County. If so, I'll be seeing you.

[mmmagique]

You may speak to "Britney" in court. If the judge grants you (or your representative) that opportunity. Otherwise...as stated earlier; LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE

[Lehk]

You pulled A KNIFE on her.

Unless you want to go to prison never speak to her or her friends nor mention her name to anyone for any reason for the rest of your life even this may not save you because pulling a knife on people is a fast way to go to prison.

[Dogmatique]

Great Googly Moogly.

That is all.