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    Default Restrictions on Foster Parenting Due to Guns in the Home

    My question involves civil rights in the State of: USC 42 , 1983

    Good Morning,

    I will try to keep this short and sweet as there are two many details to capture them all. In January 2011, my wife and I became qualified foster/adoptive parents in a county in California. We were in the process of being placed with a child in May 2011. The day before we were to be placed with the child we were told the county social worker had been dealing with a family member and had not completed any reports nor had she briefed her supervisor, so we lost the child. Approximately a month later my wife spoke with our home finder (county employee) and asked how it was going with us being placed with another child. She was told by the home finder that we had been put forward for multiple/many children but we were denied by the social workers for those children because I have guns in the house. My wife explained my job and said I would always have a firearm with me and what was the problem. She was told that it was not that I had guns but the number of guns. This bothered me, but at this point after losing one child, we did not want to bring anything forward because we felt we would be blackballed and did not want to risk our chances of being placed with a child. In Approximately August of 2011, we were matched with a 7 month old little boy who was placed in our home in September 2011. The birth mother was notifed he had been placed in adoptive home, and brought forward the name of a possible father, this man was not the father, and she brought forward another name. This man was tested a year after the child was born and it was determined he was the father, and he admitted knowing about him, and writing him letters when he was born, but did nothing after this. At this time the county offered the birth father services, then extened those services for a total of 10 months. During the court hearings it got quite dirty (all factual though) and we lost the child in March of 2013 after he had been with us 18 months and he was two years old. Prior to this hearing, I spoke with our home finder and I relayed my displeasure of being denied children due to me having guns. She relayed to me that what she meant when she said that was that many people are put forward and if I had guns and another family did not they would probably be chosen. So again she said the same thing as she said to my wife. Also along the lines of the county, every report submited had lies, minimized informatoin, or completely omitted the information, this came from the childs social worker, and in a few instances the county attorney. Now, I am not under the illusion that would would have one this case, due to the nature of the laws regarding birth parents. However, I have a realy problem with my rights being violated and the county ignoring information, lying, and minimizing information.

    In regards to the SOL, which I understand is one year for civil rights violatoins, is there anything that can be done due to the nature of our circumstances, basically being afraid to make waves for fear of not having children placed with us?

    Is there any recourse for the county and their lies in the reports? Example, we reported to the county the childs behavior after visits with the birth father from August 2012 - January 2013. We requested social worker reports and notes from the time we were involved. There was approximately 100 pages of information from the social worker. The pacakge was in order of the dates of events. Interestling enough there are no entries from August 2012 - January 2013 as to our reports to the social worker about the childs behavior.

    One final thing that is disturbing is the county requested that multiple people come to our house to view the childs behavior after visits. One incident involved a non-profit who helps children with transitions to birth homes. We contacted them and were told by an employee that she was bring pushed to come to our house by the county, but she did not want to come because she did not know the case, so she declined. The county contacted her supervisor and told her to come to our house. My wife contacted her and she said "I am not coming to observe the child, I am coming to give you information about our organization. Another individual called for us and was told the same thing. The county insisted they were coming to observe, even after they said they were not. At the visit the child was about 80% at their worst behavior after a visit, clingy, crying, screaming, etc. Near the end the visitor said "Oh My goodness, I had better go," and she left. At the final court hearing there was a 3 page report from her about the childs behavior and that it was normal for a 2 year old, but her organization could help. Help with what you said it was normal?

    Thank you in advance for any input I may receive. I dont want to sound dramatic, but the loss of this child has been devastating. My opinion is that if we had not been denied children due to me having guns we would have never gone through this ordeal, because we would have never been placed with this little boy. I also understand this samething could have happend with other children.

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    Default Re: Second Amendment Violation - County Issues

    Identify your state, please. Yes, it does matter.

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    Default Re: Second Amendment Violation - County Issues

    California

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    Default Re: Second Amendment Violation - County Issues

    Quote Quoting Blake.Rickter
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    And you are surprised that this is happening in a known anti-gun state?

    I doubt if you can do anything about it but feel free to consult an attorney.

    By the way, 2A has nothing to do with this.

    2A says you can have guns.

    Doesn't prevent anybody from denying you services because you have them.

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