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    Default Caught Trying to Steal Beer, Fought With Store Employees

    My question involves criminal law for the state of: Chicago, Illinois.
    I was arrested recently at a liquor store for trying to steal a case of beer. I walked in the store and grabbed a case of beer. I proceeded to walk out the front door as fast as possible. My dumbass(excuse my language) Attempt's to go through the wrong door. As I see the owners come up to me, I give up and say "you caught me". As i plead for them to let me go they start to punch me and hit me on the head. Its was about 3 older men. Im 18. As there trying to detain me, while punching me and hitting me all over. I resist only because of the brutality they were doing to me. Eventually they force me to the ground still punching me and hitting my head. One man puts a club to my head and says if i move he'll hit me. So he has me on my stomach with a club to my head and his foot on my back until the police arrive. Do I have any legal rights against this? Also I'm being charged with retail theft>$150. What can i do to help my charges on not be convicted. I feel as the beating they gave me was enough as I didn't even walk out the store. I'm looking to enter the military and do not want this to disqualify me or any future jobs(studying to be csi) Any legal help or advice for court? Thanks in advance

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    Default Re: What is That Max Penalty for Retail Theft and How Can I Fight This Charge

    Apparently the police assume you were injured resisting. You should hire a lawyer. You are not of the moral character the military seeks.

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    Default Re: Caught Trying to Steal Bear, Fought With Store Employees

    You need a lawyer. Just because they beat the crap out of you (which may be a crime in itself) doesn't negate your guilt on the original charge.

    ...and besides, it angers the bear.

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    Default Re: Caught Trying to Steal Bear, Fought With Store Employees

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    What can i do to help my charges on not be convicted.
    You can request for a public defender, but it is very unlikely to get the charge against you dismissed based on the above facts.

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    I feel as the beating they gave me was enough as I didn't even walk out the store. I'm looking to enter the military and do not want this to disqualify me or any future jobs(studying to be csi)
    You can also discuss with your lawyer on how to lessen the charge. Your career is in jeopardy once you decide to commit a wrongful act, so please think before you act next time.

    Good Luck

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    Default Re: Caught Trying to Steal Bear, Fought With Store Employees

    there maybe a diversion program .. call the clerk up and find out .... then go see a lawyer.

    If you want to sue the guys for using unreasonable force you may win .. you are in cook county, very plaintiff friendly

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    Default Re: Caught Trying to Steal Bear, Fought With Store Employees

    You'll very well might see this sol'd. They really could care less about a retail theft conviction once they've had the pleasure of beating the snot outta you. PD's and bond attorneys are relatively easy to get in Cook Co. If by chance you are found guilty, you will probably get supervision. It takes 5 years before you'd be eligible for expungement. Be happy they beat the hell outta you, instead of letting that bear loose on you.

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    Default Re: Caught Trying to Steal Bear, Fought With Store Employees

    One can only use reasonable force; it does not give a store owner carte blanche to try out his new tire iron. The OP does not state he required medical treatment....

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    Default Re: Caught Trying to Steal Bear, Fought With Store Employees

    How can I go about getting a lawyer? I have court soon and I do not know my standing. Do i just walk in there and a attorney represents me or do i have to call one and arrange this? Also what is this bear you speak of?

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    Thanks for the advice. One more question when I go to court will one me appointed to me? how does this process work?

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    Default Re: Caught Trying to Steal Bear, Fought With Store Employees

    Your initial court date, When you plead not guilty, they will inquire as to whether or not you can afford a lawyer.

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    Default Re: Caught Trying to Steal Bear, Fought With Store Employees

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    Your initial court date, When you plead not guilty, they will inquire as to whether or not you can afford a lawyer.
    They may or may not inquire. The defendant is best served by directly asking the criminal clerk's office for a petition for to request a court-appointed lawyer. Last I checked, Cook County had a public defender's office so they may have better systems or protocols for connecting indigent defendants with lawyers than other counties that use a system of appointment of private lawyers.

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