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    Default Ramey Warrant and Unauthorized Search of a House

    My question involves civil rights in the State of: California
    Law Enforcement knocked on my door , I answered. They asked for my brother, so I asked who they were (wearing civilian clothing) they identified themselves as parole agents. I asked them to hold on so I may check. As soon as I turned around they stormed the house guns drawn and all. Well it turns out that my brother was not even home. He has not violated his parole according to his Parole agent and did not know who the men were and what they were doing there. It turns out they were police not Parole Officers. Now did they violate my civil rights and everyone elses by searching the entire home without consent? I did not find out about the remey warrant until later that day I went to the court house to see if there was any search warrant on my home. Court records indicated there was NOT, only a "remey warrant" As far as I know they are supposed to be positively sure the person is in the home and not use trickery to gain access to the house, correct?

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    Default Re: Ramey Warrant and Unauthorized Search of a House

    If they had a valid arrest warrant to pick up your brother at his place of residence, and probable cause that he was inside, they were entitled to execute the warrant. You have no business complaining, "They didn't know for a fact that he was in the home," when you yourself admitted that he could have been inside. You were in a much better position to know whether or not your brother was inside the house with you than the police were, as you were inside and they were outside. Having a warrant isn't "trickery" - it's a warrant.

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    Default Re: Ramey Warrant and Unauthorized Search of a House

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    My question involves civil rights in the State of: California
    Law Enforcement knocked on my door , I answered. They asked for my brother, so I asked who they were (wearing civilian clothing) they identified themselves as parole agents. I asked them to hold on so I may check. As soon as I turned around they stormed the house guns drawn and all. Well it turns out that my brother was not even home. He has not violated his parole according to his Parole agent and did not know who the men were and what they were doing there. It turns out they were police not Parole Officers. Now did they violate my civil rights and everyone elses by searching the entire home without consent? I did not find out about the remey warrant until later that day I went to the court house to see if there was any search warrant on my home. Court records indicated there was NOT, only a "remey warrant" As far as I know they are supposed to be positively sure the person is in the home and not use trickery to gain access to the house, correct?
    This kind of thing frustrates me. The guy is on parole. Let's stop right there. That means he's a convict. He's out on parole rather than being in jail or prison. He loses a lot of rights when convicted of a crime and again when released on parole. He's not your average citizen with no criminal history who's home the police raided in error when they should have been at a different house.

    They had a warrant.

    You choose to live with him, or even just hang out at the home he lives in or let him hang at your home. That choice puts you in the middle of the problems he's caused himself. Expect that to inconvenience you from time to time.

    You didn't say why they had a warrant but just know that some kind of evidence was presented to a judge and a judge signed it. The police weren't going off half-cocked with no authority.

    Put the blame where it belongs. Put most of it on your brother for his prior actions, and part of it on yourself for being around a convict, and stop whining.

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    Default Re: Ramey Warrant and Unauthorized Search of a House

    Generally speaking, it is my understanding that anyone out on parole has waived their rights to a search of their premises.

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