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    Default The War on Drugs and Mandatory Minimums

    A look at the idea and judicial wisdom of mandatory minimums. What do you think? Do you agree or disagree with the premise of this article?

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    Recently, independent candidate for governor of Texas Kinky Friedman came out for the legalization of marijuana in the Lone Star State. His rationalization for marijuana’s legalization has to do with his position on crime, notably that he wants to keep minor drug offenders out of jail while putting more serious criminals (rapists, murders, pedophiles) in jail. Friedman is not the first candidate to come out for marijuana’s legalization and certainly independent and third party candidates have long promoted rehabilitation over punishment when it comes to minor drug offenses. However, Friedman’s rationalization makes for a good starting point to renewing America’s discussion about the war on drugs, which has by most accounts failed.

    Perhaps the most criticized tool of the war on drugs in America is the idea of mandatory minimums, or proscribe minimum jail sentences for those who are found to use or distribute drugs. The idea behind mandatory minimums, advocated by conservative Republicans and socially conservative Democrats, is that it forces judges to enforce narcotics laws which might be given more subjective treatment on a case-by-case basis. However, many reports and studies have shown that mandatory minimums affect minority offenders far more than white offenders. One study by Harvard professor William Brownsberger showed that mandatory minimums disproportionately were applied to users of crack cocaine, which is used in greater numbers by African American males than any other racial group.

    From a constitutional and judicial standpoint, mandatory minimums hardly make sense. The most compelling constitutional argument against mandatory minimums is the use of the Eight Amendment clause preventing “cruel and unusual punishment.” This provision is certainly subjective but on a spectrum between law abiding citizens and murderers, someone who uses drugs in the privacy of their homes and commits no other crime seems pretty insignificant. Therefore, the mandatory minimum sentencing guidelines imposed upon judges forces them into a decision that violates the Eighth Amendment. As well, the passage of laws by state legislatures and Congress have been subject to the interpretation of the judicial branch throughout American history. While mandatory minimum laws provide clear cut legal guidelines for judges, it ends up the discretion of the presiding judge how to sentence (or not sentence) plaintiffs before their court.

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    Default Re: The War on Drugs and Mandatory Minimums

    It's great to opine that mandatory minimums are unconstitutional, but I'm not aware of any state or federal jurisdiction which agrees with that.

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    It's great to opine that mandatory minimums are unconstitutional, but I'm not aware of any state or federal jurisdiction which agrees with that.
    For someone who knows it all, you sure don't say much.

    There are countless blatantly unconstitutional laws in my opinion. Obviously the courts have disagreed with my opinions OR perhaps nobody has ever taken these issues to court.

    For example, swearing oath by placing one's hand on a Bible violates not only the Separation clause, it also violates the very words in the Bible itself telling us not to take oaths! It's really quite hilarious to see how idiotic we are as a species through such examples.

    The War on Drugs is another classic example of human stupidity, indeed! But it has been debated to death and most voters don't like to think and they don't watch intelligent documentaries or listen to reason, so we're probably stuck with these idiotic laws for the foreseeable future.

    Mandatory minimums, I think, fall into the category of "politically untouchable" because anyone voting against them is perceived as being "soft on crime" or the "looney Left" and other such brilliant labels devised by the Right to control language and political discourse.

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    For example, swearing oath by placing one's hand on a Bible violates not only the Separation clause, it also violates the very words in the Bible itself telling us not to take oaths! It's really quite hilarious to see how idiotic we are as a species through such examples.
    In many jurisdictions you are sworn in without any holy book present. In those which use a holy book you should be given the option of substituting the holy book of your choice, or taking the oath without a holy book. So, bad example.

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    The War on Drugs is another classic example of human stupidity, indeed! But it has been debated to death and most voters don't like to think and they don't watch intelligent documentaries or listen to reason, so we're probably stuck with these idiotic laws for the foreseeable future.
    That's a public policy argument. What does it have to do with constitutionality?

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    ...bad example.

    ...What does it have to do with constitutionality?
    You're such a pleasant fellow to chat with.

    Seems to me we were discussing a few different topics and I opined on some. I don't know what your question about constitutionality has to do with my words that you quoted, so I really don't know what your point is or how your post contributes anything of substance.

    Figures a guy called "Dumb Turkey" would become a sitting duck for a Know-it-all.

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    If even you can't relate your comments to the question of constitutionality, perhaps you shouldn't have raised them as examples. It isn't my fault you went off-topic, nor am I able to read your mind to know when your non-sequiturs are supposed to be overlooked.

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    Default Re: The War on Drugs and Mandatory Minimums

    That is what we are here for, to opine. There may not be a lot of popular sentiment or judicial thought about mandatory minimums, but that doesn't make it right or totally legal. Some things slip through the cracks, even in a litigious culture like ours...

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    Default Re: The War on Drugs and Mandatory Minimums

    Is that what we're here for? Somehow I got confused and thought we were here to promote our articles hosted at suite101.com.

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    Not sure what your point is, Know-it All, but you seem to be picking a fight that isn't necessary. Debate the Issues is the title of this forum, correct? It seems that you don't want people to have opinions or interpretations, which would make this forum useless. You submitted your opinion, I submitted mine, and that is that. I feel that the article I wrote for Suite101 warrants discussion and you can choose to participate or stay quiet.

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    If you don't like that people perceive you as spamming, perhaps you should post the articles and not the links. Otherwise, you can expect that perception to continue, and to occasionally inspire comments.

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