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    Default Shoplifting at Kohls in Ohio

    yesterday on september 20, 2006, i was caught and charged with shoplifting from kohls. they had me on camera but i had put the things in my purse in the dressing room and when i came out with nothing in my hands i guess that set off an alarm that i was probably shoplifting. i continued to walk around the store and finally left and right when i got to my car and unlocked my door a guy came running up to me saying excuse me, you have to come with me. i just started to cry and he said you know what for? and i said yes and we went back into the store into a security room. he asked me questions and asked to see my purse. the total of the items i took was 125$ and he asked me if i had came into the store with the intent to steal, and before i could answer he said well probably because of the empty purse and everything. i said yes and said my friends told me how easy it was and i dont know why i did it. he asked if had any money on me and i said yes, 20$. the police came and my mom came to get me and the police filled out a report. The police officer had my mom sign the paper saying my court date would be on October 16th. The security guy at Kohls told my mom that i was very cooperative and didnt lie, which most offenders do not do. I dont know whats going to happen to me in court and this is my first time being caught with stealing. I have been to court a couple years ago for vandalism chargers with 2 other people. We were sent to juvenile detention for the weekend and got out that monday after the friday we were sent it. We were not supposed to be send to jail, but when the judge asked us a question we all froze up and she got mad and sent us there. I could possibly get the same judge again and i am afraid she might send me back but for a longer time. Could she bring up what i did two years ago and use it against me? I have been reading all these articles and most people say this is their first offense. Would this be my first offense since its a different case than my vandalism charges? or would it be my second based on me going to court for anything at all. Im also only 16 and my parents have taken everything away from me except for the computer for my school. i dont know what to do or who to talk to about this so if someone could please help..

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    Default Re: Shoplifting at Kohls in Ohio

    Could she bring up what i did two years ago and use it against me? I have been reading all these articles and most people say this is their first offense. Would this be my first offense since its a different case than my vandalism charges? or would it be my second based on me going to court for anything at all. Im also only 16 and my parents have taken everything away from me except for the computer for my school. i dont know what to do or who to talk to about this so if someone could please help..
    Yes. Previous offenses will be noted.

    No. It is not considered your first offense.

    Your parents have determined punishment as taking things away from you. Is that what you are asking when you don't know what to do? or who to talk to about this?

    Or is the whole situation what you are unsure of and need help with?
    More clues would be helpful in order to respond, please.

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    well i just dont understand what will happen to me in court.. if its not my first offense is it likely i will get sent back to juvi? i just started college on wednesday and if i go back to juvi i will be missing classes and get kicked out, thats why i am so worried about my court date.

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    well i just dont understand what will happen to me in court.. if its not my first offense is it likely i will get sent back to juvi? i just started college on wednesday and if i go back to juvi i will be missing classes and get kicked out, thats why i am so worried about my court date.
    You started college at an early age.

    No one can predict what will happen. Before becoming involved in vandalizing someone's property or tempted to take something that doesn't belong to you, hopefully you will remember the anxiety you have right now.

    Check with your college advisor about missing classes and the effect on your ability to continue. The year had just started, so perhaps you may be able to withdraw and get most of your parents' money returned. You sound immature for a college freshman and I wonder if you are capable of the stress of college right now.

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    the thing with the vandalism charges is something on a different basis. it was something immature kids do like tping or egging someones house except we knocked over their mailbox. we were sent to juvi because the judge was pissed that we froze up when she asked us a question. it wasnt what we did that we should have gone to juvi for, it was what the judges mood was in at the time. what i did this past week was extremely immature and irresponsible and i realize that but im worried about whats going to happen in court. im extremely focused on my school work and that is the number one thing right now. ive talked to a lot of people and they said i most likely wont go to juvi but iwill get a fine and have to take a class or do community service but i dont know if they will base this case on what i did a few years ago. Yes, i was involved in it but the other 2 people i did it with did most of the damages, and i do take responsibility for what i did, but i dont consider myself a bad person. ive realized what i did and i know that it was wrong and i feel that i should have the things taken away from me but not my schooling and thats what im worried about losing right now.

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    the thing with the vandalism charges is something on a different basis. it was something immature kids do like tping or egging someones house except we knocked over their mailbox. we were sent to juvi because the judge was pissed that we froze up when she asked us a question. it wasnt what we did that we should have gone to juvi for, it was what the judges mood was in at the time. what i did this past week was extremely immature and irresponsible and i realize that but im worried about whats going to happen in court. im extremely focused on my school work and that is the number one thing right now. ive talked to a lot of people and they said i most likely wont go to juvi but iwill get a fine and have to take a class or do community service but i dont know if they will base this case on what i did a few years ago. Yes, i was involved in it but the other 2 people i did it with did most of the damages, and i do take responsibility for what i did, but i dont consider myself a bad person. ive realized what i did and i know that it was wrong and i feel that i should have the things taken away from me but not my schooling and thats what im worried about losing right now.
    It is a good thing that you are worried. You have a conscience.

    I admire your interest in maintaining your studies. That shows your maturity.

    Try to consider that everyone- parents, teachers and the "court" are interested in helping you. Listen. Don't say anything unless you're asked a question. Answer it. Don't tell adults what you think is fair. At least not in this situation.

    Reread what you wrote in the paragraph above. Do you see the "but" "but"?? Lose the "buts". They don't help. I know that as soon as I start the "buts" I can't hear what another is saying.

    Think over the situations you have mentioned and see if you can find a point where you could have made a different choice. You're 16. You are supposed to be happy. Not worried about going to jail.

    Recently a high school senior (Ohio) was with a group of girlfriends, on a weekend, tresspassed to have some "egging, tp'ing" type of fun. One of the girls was shot in the head by the owner of the property. I hope you can see others really want for your happiness.

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    yeah you can bet that i wont be getting myself into anything bad again. I have another question, though. Given my situation, and it not being my first offense, i know that the courts will come down harder on me than if it were being my first offense. I am wondering though, when i was pulled into the office in the back of Kohls, i didnt lie about anything and i told them anything they asked me. When my mom arrived, the guy that worked there said iwas very cooperative and i answered everything truthfully, which most shoplifters dont do. If this were to be said in court, and how my parents were extremely disappointed in me and took all my liberties away from me besides school, would this help any in my punishment in court?

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    yeah you can bet that i wont be getting myself into anything bad again. I have another question, though. Given my situation, and it not being my first offense, i know that the courts will come down harder on me than if it were being my first offense. I am wondering though, when i was pulled into the office in the back of Kohls, i didnt lie about anything and i told them anything they asked me. When my mom arrived, the guy that worked there said iwas very cooperative and i answered everything truthfully, which most shoplifters dont do. If this were to be said in court, and how my parents were extremely disappointed in me and took all my liberties away from me besides school, would this help any in my punishment in court?
    I did the best I could to answer this question when you asked it before. So bluntly- how this turns out is entirely up to you with the exception of maybe 7% the mood your Judge is in the day you appear in court. Reread my suggestion about what you could have done differently in both instances where you have been arrested for unlawful acts on society. What did the Judge ask you when you "froze" the first time you appeared in court? Be prepared to answer that question again. And leave your "buts" out of your answers. Your opinion and excuses are not relevant.

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