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    Default Re: When Should We Imprison People

    And how is that going to be measured?

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    It is not about the benefit to the government but rather the benefit to the society as a whole.

    oh, so now you want to change what a cost benefit analysis is. Great. I think you and astrodude need to get together. You both like to change the definition of whatever you are talking about so it fits your needs.

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    And how is that going to be measured?
    1) Rate of recidivism for a crime
    2) How much the person contributes to GDP/ GDP growth
    3) Cost of holding an inmate
    4) Extent to which inmate can benefit society in prison
    etc.

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    Okay, admittedly that last post made me laugh.

    1) And how is that "measured"? Using what reference or scale?

    2) Ditto

    3) Uh huh.

    4) Interesting.

    What formula are you going to suggest, amoeba?

    What price on each?

    Using what standard?

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    [QUOTE=amlebede;645113]1) Rate of recidivism for a crime
    2) How much the person contributes to GDP/ GDP growth
    Oh, so a wealthy person won't have to go to prison but a poor person will. That's a great idea (not). You need to check into the Chinese ding zui. Sounds like you would think that is a great idea.

    3) Cost of holding an inmate
    so, anybody that is ill, old, requires a special diet or anything else means they don't go to jail?


    4) Extent to which inmate can benefit society in prison
    benefit society in prison? Ok, if he is a prison prostitute, would that be a benefit or injury to society in prison?

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    Default Re: When Should We Imprison People

    No. A person who provides more benefit to society will not go to prison. Wealth is irrelevant.

    That is a factor to consider.

    That has to be based on a subjective valuation.

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    Default Re: When Should We Imprison People

    Why are you guys feeding this troll? You can't be THAT bored.

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    Default Re: When Should We Imprison People

    I would take exception to the assumption that incarceration of convicted criminal is depriving us of "productivity in society".

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    Quote Quoting amlebede
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    No. A person who provides more benefit to society will not go to prison. Wealth is irrelevant.

    That is a factor to consider.

    That has to be based on a subjective valuation.
    if that is your argument, then wealth is relevant. A wealthy person can provide more benefit to society than a poor person. If they are incarcerated, their ability to benefit society is restricted.




    and a subjective evaluation? You have got to be kidding me.

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    Why are you guys feeding this troll? You can't be THAT bored.
    sadly to say, yes, I am. Not for want of nothing else to do though. I just don't want to go do the other things.

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    Quote Quoting cbg
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    Why are you guys feeding this troll? You can't be THAT bored.
    Or doing this person's homework.

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