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    Default Aircraft Zone Listings

    My question involves a traffic ticket from the state of: Maine.

    I am fighting a ticket where I was stopped for speeding and clocked by aircraft. Does anyone know how I can obtain a list or documentation of where the aircraft speed measuring zones are? If I can find this documentation, I can win my case as I was not in an aircraft zone. Any help or advice would be much appreciated!

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    Default Re: Aircraft Zone Listings

    Quote Quoting mnusicallife86
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    If I can find this documentation, I can win my case as I was not in an aircraft zone.
    Well, if you know you were not in an "aircraft zone" (whatever that might be) then you must know where the aircraft zones are!

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    When speed is measured by aircraft, the normal method is to time how long it takes a vehicle to travel between two fixed points. Frequently, these points will be two painted marks placed a measured distance apart along the roadway. However, any two points that are a known distance apart can be used...overpasses, emergency vehicle turnarounds, billboards, etc. As long as the distance between them is accurately measured, unchanging, and can be clearly seen from the plane, the math still works.

    But, even if you are only talking about markings specifically placed for aircraft speed enforcement, you are not going to be provided with a "list" of where they all are! If you challenge your citation in open court, the observer in the plane will be obligated to explain how your speed was determined. You have the right to question the officer and can ask the specific location of the landmarks used to measure YOUR speed. You can also ask how the distance between those landmarks was measured. But, nobody is going to provide you a document that maps out where all such landmarks are located.

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    Default Re: Aircraft Zone Listings

    Thank you very much for your advice, I really appreciate it. Do I need to subpoena the trooper and the aircraft observer?

    There are no aircraft markings throughout the 55 MPH zone that I was allegedly clocked in. I was just about to go back into the 65 MPH zone when I was pulled over (but not yet) and the aircraft makings don't start again until several miles into the 65 speed zone so I know the aircraft thing doesn't make sense in the area I was pulled over.

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    Again, the landmarks used do not have to be painted markings along the roadway! Even then...have you actually conducted a survey of that entire stretch of roadway to so conclusively state that "There are no aircraft markings throughout the 55 MPH zone that I was allegedly clocked in"?

    I am not familiar with Maine court procedure. So, I do not know if you need to subpoena the officer. If you want to contest the ticket, contact the court and ask the proper procedure. You might want to also do some further research into the procedures for your area.

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    Default Re: Aircraft Zone Listings

    By "aircraft makings[sic]", do you mean the ASTM marks that are painted on the side of the highway -- usually at 1/4 mile intervals. Or are you talking about the "advisory" signs stating "Speed checked by aircraft"?

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