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    Default Parole Officer Won't Grant Early Discharge

    My question involves criminal law for the state of: MICHIGAN

    Hello All,
    I thank you for taking the time to read my post and I look forward for some intelligent responses. Years ago I made a mistake that landed me in prison (drove pot) ; I did my time, behaved came out and
    left that lifestyle behind me. I returned to college and got married and am on the straight and narrow. My first parole officer I had was a real gem; friendly, responsive, and worked with me. Then I got transferred to telephone reporting and got a real $#@#$, I mean WOW who peed in her cheerios. Despite her bitterness when I had the unfortunate obligation of speaking with her I did my best to be amicable and positive. It
    did not matter. I have been begging her to submit me for a new progress report, I have all the
    documentation in the form of emails to support this claim. I actually for all intents and purposes have been working with her supervisor more than her since she (just ignores me). So I have been eligible for early
    release since Nov.18,2011 and I emailed her many times and she just ignored me. She stopped by my house early Dec, and I freaked out, because I missed her and I did not want to delay my discharge one milli-
    second. So in my panic, I looked her up online and called her house. I did not threaten her or act aggressive, you could probably hear my knees knocking on the phone - I was so mad I missed her stopping by. As a result of that "incident" I have been transferred to another district and have been bumped up on my security level. If you examine my record, I have had no violations, and am practically a straight A student 3 B
    out of 42 credits. My s*** is on-point.

    My new parole officer is indifferent which seems to be a pre-requisite for law enforcement departments, "LEAVE YOUR COMPASSION AT HOME". I made a mistake in my early 20's albeit a big one that cost me
    years of my youth but man these people take it to a whole-another level. I want to know what can I do "legally" to at the least start an investigation into her misconduct in handing my case properly... Ethical
    misconduct, internal affairs?? I refuse to believe that I have to just keep wearing this lipstick and continue to get it in my behind. I have obtained the attorney generals (corrections) division email and I want to
    write to him, however I wanted to speak to a lawyer first so my email does not look amateurish and childish.

    What can I do(legally)? There has to be some recourse or official complaint I can file? I just want to create waves and return the favor to her for ruining the next 6 months - 1 year of my life. ( a bit spiteful ;-)

    And if you are wondering why am I going through so much trouble; why am I trying so hard. It is because I was planning on going to Mexico with my wife this Fall and get married on the beach, getting married
    in court is just not the same. I can deal with suffering and hardship; I use to be a heavy drug user; I can deal with a lot of pain, I use to be locked down 22 hrs a day for years. But my wife NO, she is innocent,
    she did nothing wrong. This is not fair, this is not justice and I refuse to believe that I can not do anything but --- sit down and shut up.

    Please let me know if there is anything; however far-fetched or unconventional, I am willing to go the extra-mile.


    Thank You

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    Default Re: My Parole Officer Negligence

    You need to back off your sense of self importance and stop shooting yourself in the foot. For some reason, you think you are special and the legal system should bow at your feet. It is in fact the opposite. You are the one who ruined the next 6 mos to a year of your life. Keep pushing and the time will just keep on adding up.

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    So, you went to prison. Got on parole. And now you want your PO to release you early. But she's not doing it and you want to have her investigated for unethical behavior for that. Is that right? I want to make sure that is the issue you are having.

    What unethical behavior do you want tp have investigated? That she won't do what you want? What obligation does she have to you? I am trying to understand what your issue is. What is the basis of your allegations of misconduct. I don't see a thing that she has done wrong.

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    Thank you for your reply and I know that it is scattered and I am trying to reduce it to its "essence".

    She ignored me and refused to work with me. Her obligations to me; is to simply do her job. I do not need her to hold my hand but when I work hard at improving myself and reintegrating successfully, some basic response would be "appropriate." This would not bother so much if it were not for my previous parole officer who actually cared and worked with me. The difference is night and day.

    Maybe it is not unethical, maybe it is just her not giving a shit about doing her job. I do not feel that is acceptable from a government employee to just do whatever they want. I worked hard, and I deserve to be let off based on merit, it is something that I earned with my perfect rehabilitation. I looked into it and was told that "governmental immunity" protects her and I cannot do a damn thing.

    So I am on this forum, searching for some possible alternatives because so far, nobody cares, her supervisor, her peers, nobody and it is a complete breakdown. You reward good behavior and help those that are helping themselves. You do not ignore them.

    I am really beside myself because I have never felt such a embarrassing amount of injustice done to me.

    What are your suggestions? Just keep bending over and wearing the lipstick they gave me...

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    I get a little butthole-ish sometimes, so bear with me. PO's are not cookie cutter copies. Some are nurturing, some are down to earth. Some buy in to motivational interviewing, some are just tough. She's not doing anything wrong. Her job is to monitor your compliance. She is. Apparently, her supervisor is content with her performance. I fail to see where she is doing whatever she wants. She's just not doing what you want. There is no such thing as perfect rehabilitation. There satisfactory and unsatisfactory in this game. You don't do this for her, you don't this for early discharge. You do it because you want to live a drama free life/ You pay your dues and you keep it moving. If she decides to put you in for early discharge, she will. If you keep complaining about her and your perception of her not giving a shit, i guarantee that PO from hell you think you have, will be ten times worse.

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    So for the sake of argument what would be some circumstances where a PO's character would come into question?

    "If she decides to put you in for early discharge, she will." Really?? If she decides, there seems to be a awful lot of play there.

    There are no governing bodies like the ethics committee in the medical field(doctors)? Or ethics trouble with the bar association(lawyers)? PO's have more power and immunity??!!

    She just has free reign to do whatever she feels like; irregardless of my efforts and repeated requests.

    Also I am new to this forum: do lawyers typically respond, or people that just like watching courTV.

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    If you want to know what would be some circumstances read your states parole officer code of conduct guidelines. Being that I have just picked up my knowledge from CourtTV, I am not well versed in that.

    However, you have a set timeframe as to how long you are on parole. You knew that going in and you still know that now. However, since you wanna get testy anout this whole thing, let's do it.

    1. No PO has to work with you. That is based on the individual PO. You have dates to report, you have spot visits, you have to drop etc... If you fail to do so when directed, you can eaasily violate your parole. No PO is obligated to bend over backwards to make you feel comfortable while being on parole.

    2. You were not home when she made a home visit, so you took it upon yourself to Google her and CALL HER HOME!!! Then have to nerve to be stunned to find out that was a no no?!? Now I might be just a CourtTV fan, but I think I can attest that if a convicted felon on my caseload inappropriately gathered my personal information and called my personal contact #, he'd be lucky not to have been seriously dealt with. Did that contacting her through her personal line thing even smell like a good idea? Then you say you weren't trying to contact her for any malicious intent, but turn right around and say that after getting her personal info through Google, you want to get create drama for her for ruining the next 6 months to a year of your life!?! As if your drug conviction has nothing to do with that?

    Then you talk about your soon to be wife deserves a wedding in Mexico. I'm sorry, I don't that a priority to the department. How bout, "baby, let's wait til I get off these papers and we can get married on the moon if you want?" You still belong to the state buddy. The soon to be Mrs. ??? should have known what this whole thing is about before you got to this point. Your pain is her pain right?

    Sorry, I guess somebody pissed in my Cheerios and that made me leave my compassion at the door. Besides America's Dumbest Criminals is on CourtTV! I love this show.

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    So your PO didn't come around, pat you on the head and tell you what a good boy you are. You felt you should be let off your leash, snapped at your PO and are now angry because they put you on a shorter run, with a new handler? I suggest you curl up in the sun and prove to your new handler you can play well with others.

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    Quote Quoting NeedHelp2012
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    I thank you for taking the time to read my post and I look forward for some intelligent responses. Years ago I made a mistake that landed me in prison (drove pot)
    A mistake would be to leave your cell phone on the roof of your car and then drive off. Transportation of a controlled substance was a choice. And, I suspect, since you went to prison it was not your first or only offense.

    I did my time, behaved came out and left that lifestyle behind me. I returned to college and got married and am on the straight and narrow.
    Good for you.

    I have been begging her to submit me for a new progress report, I have all the documentation in the form of emails to support this claim. I actually for all intents and purposes have been working with her supervisor more than her since she (just ignores me). So I have been eligible for early release since Nov.18,2011 and I emailed her many times and she just ignored me.
    Is there a requirement that a parole officer in Michigan SHALL (i.e. MUST) put a parolee in for a new progress report and recommend him or her for early discharge? If no such requirement exists, then what you are asking is for her to do you a favor - a favor which she is not legally obligated to accommodate.

    If she is required to do those things for you, then I am sure that her supervisor will force her to do them. But, since you say have been in communication with the supervisor I would guess that no such requirement is being pushed onto the PO.

    She stopped by my house early Dec, and I freaked out, because I missed her and I did not want to delay my discharge one milli-second. So in my panic, I looked her up online and called her house. I did not threaten her or act aggressive, you could probably hear my knees knocking on the phone - I was so mad I missed her stopping by.
    So, you missed her when she stopped by ... and you were "mad" when you called her? Mad at who? Yourself? Were you required to be at home at the time she came by?

    And calling her at home?! Yeah, I'd be miffed, too! And more than a little scared! You do know that POs have been killed by parolees, right? And are sometimes targeted for retaliation, right? Do you understand how that likely disturbed her tad? Bad for her if she did not at least have her phone number unlisted. But, still, you had to have seen that calling her at home rather than the office was a bad idea.

    My new parole officer is indifferent which seems to be a pre-requisite for law enforcement departments, "LEAVE YOUR COMPASSION AT HOME".
    Compassion can be shown by exercising discretion not by giving in to demands. Perhaps the compassion is that you were not rolled up and sent back to prison.

    Why is it that when a law enforcement professional does their job or does not cut someone a break they are uncompassionate? Is the waitress at Denny's uncompassionate when she doesn't give you 10% off on your food?

    I made a mistake in my early 20's albeit a big one that cost me years of my youth but man these people take it to a whole-another level.
    The "mistake" was yours. Be angry with yourself, your lack of foresight and immaturity. Be thankful you have grownfrom the experience and are now a different person.

    I want to know what can I do "legally" to at the least start an investigation into her misconduct in handing my case properly.
    How has it been handled IMproperly? Is she required to submit a request for early release? Is she required to do anything more than supervise and then cut you loose on the date that the court assigned?

    What you can "legally" do is continue to follow the rules and serve out your time. Unless she has violated some internal policy that says that POs have to accede to the demands of their charges, I doubt you have a case for any complaint against her. You can certainly try to complain, but I can imagine the disbelief that will come from the investigators as they struggle to find SOME violation that they can articulate so they can begin to look into the matter. It may very well be dismissed as soon as it is received.

    But my wife NO, she is innocent, she did nothing wrong. This is not fair, this is not justice and I refuse to believe that I can not do anything but --- sit down and shut up.
    SHE is not being punished. You are. This situation is the result of your past misdeeds. She married you knowing full well that she was marrying a man on parole who had limitations. If she can wait another 9 months for a vacation to Mexico, she can wait 15 months (or however long). It won't kill either of you and you can save that much more money to enjoy yourselves even more.

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    Thanks! If I wasn't so sexually frustrated and out of shape, I might have been able to dxpress myself better!

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