Minor Caught with Marijuana and K2

[viol8te]

since you've failed to answer my question as to what i've "made up," it seems as though you've realized that it was not only a false accusation but that you've provided an invalid citation to try to make yourself look like the "mr.knowitall" that you see yourself to be. 53,000 posts does not make you right; "I am human and I will be wrong some of the time." ---i belive you nailed this one. so if you want to add further conditions of conduct and make factors up about my statement, find a different board. there is no law in most states against intoxication of marijuana by an orderly person, in public or private, if they are not operationg a vehicle.

Seriously, don't start. The vagueness of you argument is basically, what I do in private is legal. It's not. You are just doing an illegal act in a place that provided, you don't do anything to draw attention, you're fine. It's not that it's legal, it's just not reported. You can't have weed legally in most states, so why would it be legal to be under the influence? You don't have enough longevity to go aftr anybody on this board.

[highpitch9009]

my argument is that im not "making things up" and that the simple presence of thc in a person's system is NOT illegal. whether in public or private has nothing to do with it. you can contact a lawyer or a judge if you'd like, and they'll tell you the same thing--DUIs, possession charges and public intoxication charges are the only conditions one can be prosecuted for marijuana use. in your profession it is grounds for revocation, but unless they're on probation, being high is not a crime. if it were then employers would be reporting thousands of crimes every day to the police when applicants fail a UA

[viol8te]

my argument is that im not "making things up" and that the simple presence of thc in a person's system is NOT illegal. whether in public or private has nothing to do with it. you can contact a lawyer or a judge if you'd like, and they'll tell you the same thing--DUIs, possession charges and public intoxication charges are the only conditions one can be prosecuted for marijuana use. in your profession it is grounds for revocation, but unless they're on probation, being high is not a crime. if it were then employers would be reporting thousands of crimes every day to the police when applicants fail a UA

Speaking only for myself, whether you are "making things up" or not is irrelavent. You are giveing poor advice that could get some dumb kid in trouble because they think that they've found a way to circumvent the law.

[highpitch9009]

if the issue of whether i'm making stuff up is irrelavant then why would you quote it when somebody else says that i am? and the kid is not necessarilly "dumb" or have "psychiatric issues" or a "drug problem" like you, and everybody on this thread, are calling him. he asked a simple question starting this thread as to what better understanding of marijuana laws anyone could give him; his exact question being "is it illegal to be high," and i pointed out exactly what the law prohibits him from doing and what it does not prohibit. the law does not prohibit one from simply being under the influence. 17 is old enough to make your own decisions, and should he continue to keep using that is his choice to make. i'm not giving poor adivce, just pointing out specifically what is within the law and what is not--possession, illegal. inhalation, no laws prohibiting. any further than that he can decide for himself, he does not need advice
would anyone really be so naive as to think that he would actually quit using regardless of what anybody could tell him? he's already made up his mind that he's going to continue to use; he's just looking for a safer way to do it to preserve his future

[viol8te]

if the issue of whether i'm making stuff up is irrelavant then why would you quote it when somebody else says that i am? and the kid is not necessarilly "dumb" or have "psychiatric issues" or a "drug problem" like you, and everybody on this thread, are calling him. he asked a simple question starting this thread as to what better understanding of marijuana laws anyone could give him; his exact question being "is it illegal to be high," and i pointed out exactly what the law prohibits him from doing and what it does not prohibit. the law does not prohibit one from simply being under the influence. 17 is old enough to make your own decisions, and should he continue to keep using that is his choice to make. i'm not giving poor adivce, just pointing out specifically what is within the law and what is not--possession, illegal. inhalation, no laws prohibiting. any further than that he can decide for himself, he does not need advice
would anyone really be so naive as to think that he would actually quit using regardless of what anybody could tell him? he's already made up his mind that he's going to continue to use; he's just looking for a safer way to do it to preserve his future

So...there'so law for public intoxication? If there isn't want on the books for his state, did you liik it up prior to stating that he caould be high as long as he's not a danger? The concept of being intoxicated is not just based on alcohol. So, if you want to help him preserve his future, why don't we tell the lil whippersnapper not to smoke. How's that for a deal?

For what it's worth, I didn't call this kid dumb. I was actually referring to the kids you might encounter on a regular. Public intoxication is an offense that many states charge. Therefore, merely being high is illegal.

[highpitch9009]

my exact initial claim was "being high in most states is not illegal" and the statute that mr.knowitall cited was for public intoxication, but for a different state i believe. arkansas law still states that you must not only be under the influence of a substance but also likely to endanger himself or herself or another person or property or unreasonalby annoying a person within his or her vicinity.these are conditions of behavior that must be combined with the influence so in his state simply being high would not be illegal.like i said, contact an arkansas judge or attorney and i guarantee they will tell you the same thing. if that were not the case, why would employers not be getting applicants thrown in jail daily for those who fail a UA instead of just not hiring them?

and im not going to coax him not to smoke because first of all, maybe it's not in his best interest. you don't know what physical or mental ailments he has to deal with that may call for the use. his life may be much easier with it. believe it or not there ARE many social disorders and physical ailments that marijuana helps which is why 16 states and our nation's capitol of DC have legalized the medicinal use and many more counties and cities decriminalizing it.
secondly, im not going to tell him not to smoke because as i have already stated, he has his mind made up that he's going to use marijuana, and with that being the case you have to give him the best advice you can based on what the situation is.

Arkansas code § 5-71-212(a) is his state's public intoxication statute. just like most other states, public intoxication refers to more than just being intoxicated in public. there usually are conditions of behavior that must be violated in a disorderly or dangerous way