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    Default 60 Day Move Out Notice

    My question involves landlord-tenant law in the State of: PA

    We signed a lease agreement about a year ago, for exactly 12 months. The person that showed us the model (not the actual apt that we were supposed to rent out), wasn't there when we came back, and so some other agent agreed to "help us out".
    We signed the lease on the same day we actually moved in, once again, yet another leasing agent gave us the lease papers, and tried to rush us.
    We barely got any attention from them, nobody explained anything to us.. they just showed us where to sign.
    Now that its time to move out, they dropped a bomb on us, saying that we were obligated to let them know about the move out 60 days prior the move out date and since we let them know only today (2 weeks before move-out) we gonna have to pay for those 2 extra months even if we don't live here anymore!!! They said its in the lease agreement, but no one explained anything or mentioned anything to us before. WE DIDN'T EVEN GET A COPY OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT!!!
    They lied to us about everything, and frankly I'm not surprised they came up with this thing now.
    We already found a new apt, and we really won't be able to afford paying 2 rents!!!! This is ridiculous! I'm so outraged...

    Is there anything we can do???

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    Default Re: 60 Day Move Out Notice

    LEGALLY?? NO, you don't have a leg to stand on, if they have a copy of the lease with your signature on it.

    It appears your defenses are 1) "nobody bothered to explain anything to me, and I signed it without reading it", and 2) "I never had a copy of the lease, and therefore how could I have read it". Legally, it does not fly.

    Have I seen these situations before?? Yes. My dad came to this country in the 1930's as a child, went to school here, so he helped many of his illiterate friends and relatives who cannot read and write in any language with stuff like leases, and he's been telling these people never sign anything unless you know what you are signing. Even these people can't get away with the excuses you are offering. From reading your post, it does not appear that you are an "illiterate" who just came off the boat, so you'll have a tough time explaining to a judge when you get sued that "I am so clueless that I need everthing explained to me, and I also need someone to make sure I got a copy of the lease, but since no one told me any of that, I can't be at fault".

    In fact, giving 30 to 60 days notice is so standard that as landlord, when I bring a lease for a tenant to sign, most of them would ask me first how much notice I need from them, and I tell them for me, it's 30 days, and it's in the lease. Having said that though, I myself have a neice who is quite clueless, and everything sounds to her like "it's a bomb", like the time she gave her landlord at the first apartment she rented a rent check that "bounced", and she was totally shocked when she found out that people are actually upset when checks bounced. I didn't even go into the fact it could be illegal, as that would be "a bomb" to her.

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