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  1. #1
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    Default Re: Missed Work Due to Landlord Not Removing Snow

    Here's my take on it, from the employers and landlord standpoint.

    Some years ago, I was a department manager for a company in central NJ, which at the time was comparatively rural. Folks we hire live 30 to 40 minutes away.

    Then I-78 opened, and we start interviewing people living in PA, over 1:15 away. People tell me it's only 30 minutes more, but houses cost half as much, real estate taxes are half as much, and all the fresh air. So I tell these people, that's all well and good, but if there are snow storms, and local roads get treacherous up in the mountains, I don't want to hear anything about problems getting to work, snow not being cleared etc.

    It's all well and good that they make the choices to live where they want to live, enjoy the cost of living advantages, but just don't expect everyone to carry you on the downside, because, YES, you'll have to use up some personal days in bad winters when people who live closer, pay more rent and taxes can come in.

    Where I am now, I do the payroll and maintain the attendance records. I just had a disagreement with the agency Director marking down a vacation day for an excellent employee, who rarely misses a day. She live rather far away, we were closed for one snow day, but the following day, streets in her area was not cleaned, so she cannot come in while others were able to come in.

    My Directors point is people make choices as to where they live, and she cannot give this employee a pass, and expect others to show up. Point well taken. I recall making the same speech to people who chose to live in the next state driving through the mountains to come to work.

    I'm also a landlord, at one time, I had to hire contractors to clear snow for a property on the other side of the county from me. They do not come every few hours, and because once, they were caught in the middle of a storm in the middle of unplowed streets, afterwards, they only come after the cessation of a storm. The municpal authorities give owners so much time after the cessation of storms to clear the snow, so I no longer demand contractors to come by that early, and get stuck.

    In fact, I shifted to hiring tenants to clean the snow, giving them a break on the rent, and they are way ahead on good weather years. So far, I haven't had major insurance issues doing it this way. I had found this to be the best way as often, tenants get stir crazy snowbound, and this gives them an opportunity to work off their energy, with the advantage that if the snow is not cleaned fast enough, the culprit lives right down the hall.

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    Default Re: Missed Work Due to Landlord Not Removing Snow

    So even if the lease says he just remove snow, it is up to him to decide what is a reasonable amount of time.
    On private property? Sure is up to the owner, yup.

    Even on public property (sidewalks), "reasonable time" does not mean "before people have to go to work". Rather, municipalities set the deadline for anywhere from 24 to 48 hours AFTER the snow stops falling.

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