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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Can a Parent Get on a Childs Facebook Account

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    Well, Clark County, Arkansas apparently - not exactly for hacking, but for actions taken after hacking.

    Facebook legal cases are growing, for all kinds of reasons. I don't think any of you parents want to hack your kid's accounts and change their status to Johnny Doe liked to run around like a Naked Cowboy until he was 8. Because Johnny might file charges and you'll be responsible for costs when the Naked Cowboy sues Johnny.

    In terms of contacting the social network to have things removed....Facebook states an age of 13 for use. And it also states that the account holder owns their content but they retain the right to remove content if it infringes on copyright, intellecutal property rights or the law.....so...how do you play that one?

    If Facebook removed completely legal content - which I own - based on something my mom said...I'd totally be going to the media with some questions - and the media loves Facebook stories.

    ...however the rest of society doesn't really care when a parent actually - gasp - does their job of parenting. In fact, we applaud it.

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    Default Re: Can a Parent Get on a Childs Facebook Account

    District Attorneys are elected officials. I seriously doubt a DA is going to prosecute a parent who is editing, removing, or moderating his or her child's on-line content. Good luck with that one. If there are isolated cases, it is where a parent has gone above and beyond reasonable moderation and has actually inflicted - or attempted to inflict - some 'harm' to their child or another person.

    jklo, there is this little thing referred to as the "spirit" of the law.

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    Default Re: Can a Parent Get on a Childs Facebook Account

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    The simple solution is to tell the child that they will make their passwords available to the parent at all times while living under the parent's roof and that their internet activity is subject to monitoring and restrictions as deemed necessary by the parent. Failure to do so results in loss of as many privileges as the parent deems appropriate. That way no hacking occurs. If my child were to report something like this to the police, the moment they turn 18 their butt is on the street..so long, see ya never. Yes, there are laws involved but sometimes the ability to parent should take precedence. Now before the usual nuts start spouting garbage. I'm talking about monitoring your child's comings and goings, communication, etc.. and not where issues of abuse are concerned.
    Well hang on. Don't you think that it's a better idea to educate your child on privacy and the internet? I don't use social network sites to meet strangers, I only allow friends access and set my privacy settings to the highest level. And then we leave messages for each other and share photos.

    So.

    When you were a teenager and you were hanging out with your friends, talking, joking, sharing photos (from those 'film' days), did you invite your parents to come and sit with you and join in? I doubt it.

    I'd be inclined to tell you to po. I would perhaps be open to allowing you to look at my privacy settings. But you're not getting in my social circle.

    Your solution would just encourage me to hide. And it's very easy to tidy up on a computer when you know what you're doing. Just teach your kid about the implications of privacy and the internet.

    Yeah....I'm gonna give you my password, then you can read not only stuff that's available to friends but also private messages....sure, sounds reasonable.

    Quote Quoting Dogmatique
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    ...however the rest of society doesn't really care when a parent actually - gasp - does their job of parenting. In fact, we applaud it.
    Don't you follow the news? Social networking, content control, intellectual property rights are hot topics.

    I think if the parents of say a 17 year old attempted to have Facebook delete content which under Facebook's rights and responsibilities belongs to the 17 year old and which included data that falls under intellectual property.....I think that would generate a lot of debate over rights and ownership...

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    Default Re: Can a Parent Get on a Childs Facebook Account

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    Well hang on. Don't you think that it's a better idea to educate your child on privacy and the internet? I don't use social network sites to meet strangers, I only allow friends access and set my privacy settings to the highest level. And then we leave messages for each other and share photos.
    That's great. But as a parent, I also want to know what my kids are up to. As you probably know, teenagers can do some pretty stupid and self-destructive things. As a parent, I kinda want to protect them from that. My children are required to provide me with their passwords to their MySpace and Facebook sites, and if they are active on any other social forums without my knowledge, they know they will lose computer rights totally.

    When you were a teenager and you were hanging out with your friends, talking, joking, sharing photos (from those 'film' days), did you invite your parents to come and sit with you and join in? I doubt it.
    You're right - I didn't. But, my parents generally knew where i was going and who i was hanging with. And if they did not like where i was going or who I was hanging with, i couldn't go. I choose to have the same control with my kids in cyberspace - I want to know where they are going (what sites they are visiting) and whop they are hanging with (their web friends). Unfortunately for my kids, I am much more tech-savvy than they are.

    I'd be inclined to tell you to po. I would perhaps be open to allowing you to look at my privacy settings. But you're not getting in my social circle.
    And if you were my child, you'd be without a computer at that point, and likely grounded for a good long time.

    What you fail to understand, kiddo, is that parents are morally and LEGALLY responsible for their minor child and his or her activities. If a parent fails to exercise reasonable controls, depending on events, they can be held civilly and criminally liable. Google the stories behind some of the recent high profile school shootings and other headline crimes in recent years and find out about the liability that schools and parents have held for a LACK of attention to their kids' activities then come back and tell us that it is best to live in the dark about a kids' internet activity.

    If your parents are so permissive, well, lucky you. But it is already clear that you have a chip on your shoulder regarding authority and anyone who disagrees with you, and this permissive attitude will do you few favors in life as you will be in for a rather sudden wake up call when the real world smacks you in the face and you find employers and authority figures are not so ready to hear what you believe are logical and mature, civil libertarian arguments. Most teens believe they are right - it is the nature of being young and immortal. Life experience, education, and living in the real world will help to temper that sense of self importance, I suspect.

    In any event, you are free to do what your parents permit you to do. In the meantime, those of us who seek to be responsible and caring custodians of our children will continue to monitor their activities as best they can - both in cyberspace and in the mundane world as well.

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    You're right - I didn't. But, my parents generally knew where i was going and who i was hanging with.
    But did they know what you were saying to each other?

    I dunno, maybe you're from a cop family and you wore a wire.

    I still don't see the problem with looking at their privacy settings and then....I don't know, trusting them?

    If I had a parent like you my Facebook would have a tumbleweed rolling through it. I'd be like, don't bother guys, move the conversation back to email. (or do you have their email passwords too?)

    Yeah teenagers can do stupid and self-destructive things. So tell them to understand their privacy settings and to also not photograph or film themselves doing stupid and self-destructive things and put them on the internet.

    You're tech-savvy? Let's give each other 5 minutes and Google and see how much we've identified about ourselves? Perhaps what I find out about you and what you find out about me will explain my mom's permissiveness, and your need to control (I could of course be wrong, but I think I've seen two facts here already)

    Don't post anything you find here by the way!

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