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    Default Re: Made Me Write a Resignation Letter

    It is a very, very bad idea to go over your boss's head, particularly when you've already been told not to do so. It is also a very, very bad idea to give your employer an ultimatum.

    No laws have been broken here.

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    Default Re: Made Me Write a Resignation Letter

    Just wondering, why is it a very bad idea to go above my boss's head, if my boss isn't acting on an issue? Don't we have freedom of speech?

    If the problem wasn't solved, what should I had done? Quit?

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    Ah, the old freedom of speech argument again. The right to freedom of speech granted to you in the First Amendment says that the government cannot restrict your speech. It does not mean that you are free to go over your boss's head, when you have been told not to, with no possible repercussions.

    In putting an ultimatum in front of your boss, you essentially said, "Give me what I am demanding or I quit". He took you at your word.

    Was this handled well? Not even remotely, by either you or the manager.

    Did the manager violate any laws? No, again not even remotely.

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    Default Re: Made Me Write a Resignation Letter

    Agreed.

    Every time someone has told me "do THIS or I quit!", I have accepted their resignation.

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    Default Re: Employer Made Me Write a Resignation Letter

    All I asked was for another cubical transfer. Cubicals were all free on the same floor. Why did they have to assign a cubical for me between TWO toilets? Would you work an 8 hour work day next to two toilets where there's traffic all the time men and women come and go this was a large work place 200+ people on floor. I think you would not like it.

    If you were to ask your manager "hey, can I switch my cubical?" and got no reply, would you continue sitting in cubical with broken lights between 2 toilets and tolerate it or would you go to higher management for the help?

    If as you say I gave him an ultimatum, why then he'd send me a check AFTER I signed my resignation letter? People don't hand out money out freely out of nothing. Either it's "take the money and shut up" or "I feel guilty for what I've done here's some money for you"?

    So if a manager ignores your request, you suggest to keep tolerating whatever it is you have and not go for help to higher managment. Basically you are saying, eat crap and be quiet about it.

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    Why did they have to assign a cubical for me between TWO toilets?
    Sounds like your manager didn't like you. But neither the company nor your manager owes you an explanation, legally. It's even possible that your manager did it on purpose to make you unhappy, hoping you'd leave. Perfectly legal.


    If you were to ask your manager "hey, can I switch my cubical?" and got no reply, would you continue sitting in cubical with broken lights between 2 toilets and tolerate it or would you go to higher management for the help?
    Having already been reamed by this manager for going over their head? It would depend on how bad I needed my job. For me personally, I'd bite my tongue and start looking elsewhere or try to get transferred to another area of the company (because no matter HOW happy OTHER departments were with you, your manager is apparantly the one with authority to terminate you). As noted by other posters, when your supervisor has already told you that action A pisses them off, choosing to take that SAME action later is asking for the snake to bite you.

    It isn't about what anyone else would like or wouldn't like. Circumventing your chain of command can result in unpleasant consequences, up to and including termination. Some managers REALLY dislike that - just as yours told you. Unless there is a contract or CBA that says otherwise, then yes, an employer can terminate you for ANY reason that isn't protected under law (race, color, etc.). This is a case of choosing your battles wisely - you wanted to battle, and your manager, didn't.

    Unless your final pay check was a personal check from the manager, then the cutting of that final corporate check means that the company chain of command supported the termination. Final paychecks usually include amounts for things like sick or vacation time not used, possibly severance according to company policy, etc. - it's HIGHLY unlikely that the manager who terminated you had the will or even the ABILITY to just "gift" you funds in a final check. Check your final pay report carefully - it should outline exactly how the figure was determined.

    So if a manager ignores your request, you suggest to keep tolerating whatever it is you have and not go for help to higher managment. Basically you are saying, eat crap and be quiet about it.
    No one is suggesting one way or the other, only pointing out that LEGALLY, the employer can terminate you for ANY reason not otherwise protected by law. Some companies and their managers are really open to hearing and working on employee grievances. Others are not. Your company apparantly was not, and your particular manager, appointed by the company as your supervisor, made this pretty clear. MORAL realities are one thing....but the LEGAL reality is that yes, sometimes if you want to keep a job, you eat crap, or they'll find someone who will.

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    Default Re: Employer Made Me Write a Resignation Letter

    No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that no one promised you that there would not be consequences when you ignore your boss's instructions, and that such consequences are legal.

    You have, I trust, applied for unemployment?

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