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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Caught Shoplifting, Ineligible for a Public Defender

    Wal-Mart has signs all over the store: Shoplifting is not a prank or a thrill, it's a CRIME that can cost you $2000.....

    You know what? People STILL shoplift there.

    What would you suggest? Every time you enter a store for the first time, a customer must watch a video tape and sign a document saying they understand that shoplifting is bad and they will get in a lot of trouble? And then the document signed and placed on file? And a card issued to carry in their wallet so next time they go to that store, they have to show the card to enter?

    I dunno. I thought being told "stealing is wrong" in Kindergarten should be enough.

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    Default Re: Caught Shoplifting, Ineligible for a Public Defender

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    I am not saying that its okay to shoplift, and I after doing some research I've learned how much of a problem shoplifting causes for buisnesses and consumers. I am not trying to condone my actions. I simply wish that I could have learned all of this an easier way. Obviously I will not shoplift again, but I probably would have never done it in the first place if I knew more of this before hand. It seems like many people end up in the same situation that I was in, and I am sure some of them feel the same way.
    Then your parents didn't raise you well.

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    You are taking this a little too far. I was raised by a single dad along with two younger brothers. He did a commendable job raising the three of us, and I am appalled that you would take a mistake like this so far. Yes, I did make a judgement error, but I am a good person. And for that matter, I don't consider shoplifting as that serious of an offense. I won't do it again simply because of the cost, but I did not hurt anyone or put anyone in danger. I work hard, get straight A's in school, and am proud of where I am in life. Do not criticize me for this minor mistake. No one is perfect, including you.

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    Default Re: Caught Shoplifting, Ineligible for a Public Defender

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    I don't consider shoplifting as that serious of an offense.
    Then you aren't as "good a person" as you think you are and we can't help you any further.

    but I did not hurt anyone or put anyone in danger.
    Physcially, no, but so what? It's still morally and legally wrong.

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    Default Re: Caught Shoplifting, Ineligible for a Public Defender

    Shoplifting is NOT a mistake. It is a deliberate, intentional and planned out act which is a crime.

    I find it incredible the number of morons that post here saying they got caught shoplifting. They really should read any of the dozens of threads already here on that very subject.

    Retailers have become experts at catching shoplifters and these idiots go into a store without a clue and think they will get away with it. And then are all surprised and shocked that they get caught.

    And of course they all tell us how honest they are and what a mistake it was and now how do they get out of it.

    Excuse me, you have to have very poor moral compass and have to be greedy and selfish and think you are special and will get away with it. Then when you don't it becomes a big shock.

    Many times people shoplift stuff they don't really need, it is a lack of morals, responsibility and respect.

    We generally call these people losers, no matter how they try to justify it.

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    Default Re: Caught Shoplifting, Ineligible for a Public Defender

    Actually, you hurt people, but not in a physical sense.

    Stores lose BILLIONS of dollars each year to shoplifters. That loss is passed onto consumers in the form of higher prices.

    Tell you what - let me come to your house, and steal a video game from you. It's ok, I didn't hurt you or put you in any danger.....just now you need to shell out $20 to replace the game I stole from you....

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    Default Re: Caught Shoplifting, Ineligible for a Public Defender

    It's not that I, or anyone else, is taking this too far. It's that you're not taking it seriously enough.

    The overwhelming message that is coming through your post is, I shouldn't be expected to take responsibility for my actions unless someone else takes the responsibility, first, of spelling out to me exactly what will happen to me in all situations. I'm not ceasing to shoplift because I understand it is wrong; I'm ceasing only because it's too much trouble if I get caught. But I really ought to have the option of shoplifting if I want to, because no one has shown me why it is wrong.

    You get no sympathy here. You clearly have no morals worth bothering with, and I'm not wasting any more time on you.

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    Default Re: Caught Shoplifting, Ineligible for a Public Defender

    Hello. What did you plea to the judge & what did you say to get it down to an infraction? I am in the same situation as you are and I really do not know what to do!

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    Here's more about what happened when I was actually arrested- I conceled a pair of flip flops ($40) and earings ($20). As soon as I left the store, a LP stopped me and asked me to follow him to the back of the store. He was very polite and professional. When I got to his office, there was another man and a girl there. Both of them were very rude and unprofessional. The other man was yelling at me even though I was being completely cooperative. The lady was laughing and making jokes, which really bothered me since I was in trouble, and didn't find the situation funny. They ended up calling the police and I was arrested and had to sit in a cell for six hours while waiting for the bondsman.

    I went to court a few days later and was told to come back. When I did, my charges were reduced to a civil infraction with a $50 fine. That same day I came home and found the civil demand from JP Penny's in the mail. I have 30 days to pay $250. Hopefully I will be able to come up with the money to pay this in time. This has been a learning experience, but I think that more warning from the stores could help prevent this from happening to other people. I had no idea that something like shoplifting could lead to so many legal problems. I almost feel ambushed with this situation. If I had known how serious the consequences were, I would have NEVER attempted to shoplift. Maybe the stores should spend a little more money on awareness rather than simply having people arrested (and giving them criminal records in some cases). I had always thought that you could get no more than maybe a fine or have to leave the store. Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine that it could possibly ruin my future carreer opportunities and be so expensive.
    The last part of your quote makes it sound like you didn't think commiting a crime would
    "Possibly ruin my future career opportunities" etc. But you should have already known that. You make it sound as if stealing isn't a crime that has heavy consequences. there is no need for awareness.

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