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    Default Re: Discipline For Calling The Boss A Name

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    I don't remember the "Joys of Goading Employees into Acts of Irresponsible Behavior" class in business school.
    Does that theory also include women who are sexually harassed job after job and demands are made of them and they snap?? I guess then when a woman calls her boss an a**hole when he proposititions her she is "irresponsible". Interesting!!

    Or is sexual harassment just a myth women invent to extort money from employers, as most employers claim??

    Did your business school have courses in employee retention and turnover? Is hounding someone day after day a way to achieve employee loyalty??

    I am a white male and I have been the victim of unlawful discrimination more than once and I have witnessed it a # of times, so I don't need to be taught about so called employer innocence.

    As I stated before on the board, at one time I extensively researched employment law and you would not believe the horror cases that have come out of employment at will. Are you seriously telling me ALL those cases are the result of employees attitudes??? C'mon Jeff!!



    Having said that, there is not a big conspiracy out there. Some people are represented best by the southbound end of a northbound horse. When they manage people, that attitude carries over.

    By that statement I seem to extract from you that most all lawsuits against employers, for sexual harassment or not, are as I stated, attempted extortion.



    Mutual respect works best. Calling a boss any name is a career limiting decision.

    I never said it was'nt, if you re-read my post. Just because YOU might not do it, it does not mean another can handle being treated like trash as good as you!!!

    You had your say and I had mine, we don't need to detract from the op's thread with our debate anymore!!

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    Default Re: Discipline For Calling The Boss A Name

    Hold up there. You are seeing things through a lens that is not present.

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    Does that theory also include women who are sexually harassed job after job and demands are made of them and they snap?? I guess then when a woman calls her boss an a**hole when he proposititions her she is "irresponsible". Interesting!!
    He/she said he was rude. Not sexually harrassing.

    Your statement was that
    Employers love to goad employees into such, they are experts on it
    Means that getting an employee into calling them names is somehow part of good management. It isn't.

    Or is sexual harassment just a myth women invent to extort money from employers, as most employers claim??
    Again, where did the OP mention sexual harrassment?

    Did your business school have courses in employee retention and turnover? Is hounding someone day after day a way to achieve employee loyalty??
    Of course not. I have often said that bad managers deserve to manage no one.

    still doesn't give the OP the right to name call.

    I am a white male and I have been the victim of unlawful discrimination more than once and I have witnessed it a # of times, so I don't need to be taught about so called employer innocence.
    Maybe not. However, you may want to think about reading through a post and then looking for evidence of infraction before you run off.

    As I stated before on the board, at one time I extensively researched employment law and you would not believe the horror cases that have come out of employment at will. Are you seriously telling me ALL those cases are the result of employees attitudes??? C'mon Jeff!!
    I never said anything of the kind. I know there are bad bosses out there. Being a jerk, however, is still not illegal.

    By that statement I seem to extract from you that most all lawsuits against employers, for sexual harassment or not, are as I stated, attempted extortion.
    That is not a leap in judgement... it is a spaceshot.

    I have never said anything of the sort.

    Neither did the OP.

    I never said it was'nt, if you re-read my post. Just because YOU might not do it, it does not mean another can handle being treated like trash as good as you!!!

    You had your say and I had mine, we don't need to detract from the op's thread with our debate anymore!!
    If you had read my post, I didn't doubt that the person was a jerk. I just said that employers aren't necessarily jerks or that they become jerks when they enter management.

    Sometimes you have jerks that rise to management and continue being jerks. The OP's boss sounds like one. Doesn't make it illegal or his/her actions allowed.

    Our debate? You have gone off on a tangent because you read something into the post - that the comments that were stated were of a sexual nature - that was not stated.

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