Your attempt to harass and censor isn't working...but carry on little troll.

The word "unreasonable" carries a lot of weight. It just happens to be a word that cannot describe every situation. Like: A motorist must operate his vehicle 'safely.' Safe' for one person may not be...

When it comes to wording our laws, Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc, every word carried a lot of weight. Why is it more appropriate to say "presumption of innocence until proven guilty" over...

Thanks for the heads up. I'll try to ignore him too. :)

Then you should admit that your first three sentences are wrong. In that, a guilty verdict does not mean a person is no longer innocent.

Oh, that hurts. But don't worry. I won't respond to your dumb thoughts anymore.

It was you that asked the dumb question.

Why are you asking me your dumb question? I never said it was a law, rather a commonly known phrase that nearly every human being is familiar with and thinks our justice system is based upon. But not...

This is a common, yet inherently flawed phrase because 'proven guilty' does not negate one's innocence. It could just a easily be 'innocent in spite of being proven guilty.'

It is a legal term...

We finally agree. That "proven guilty" does not mean a person did the crime. It means he has to do the time. :) And it does not mean the decision/vote is based in truth.

But still, "voted...

Your stalking and harassing of me doesn't seem to be working. But have fun with it. :)

Unlike you, I have never broken a forum rule.

The term "proven guilty" is a fallacy used by folks who wish to bolster our justice system. A person in actually voted guilty by one, three or twelve people.

One is rarely "proven guilty" unless...