misquoted? I am copying and pasting your own words. It's not like I am retyping anything.Quote:
=citizenxo;399647]My god, you have the reading comprehension skills of a struggling 3rd grader!
A pulled around and then B jerked towards the car.
You have now misquoted something 4 times in a row, making yourself look like a complete and total moron. Do you honestly believe you are in a position to talk about how other people would come across in trial?
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here (from your first post) you say she was in front of him.Quote:
She had jerked in front of him when her gate opened slightly after his, but then stopped in the middle of the path.
then you said he pulled in front of her (how else would she have been able to threaten him with her car?. Then, after he threatened her with a weapon, his simply got into his car and drove away.
How dare I? You are the one that is lying. How dare YOU. and yes, I proved you to be a liar several times.Quote:
Liar? How DARE you.
actually, your friend, whom I suspect is in reality you, should be ashamed for threatening a woman with a weapon simply because of a traffic problem. Had anger problems for long or is this a recent development. Sometimes as you are going through puberty the increase in testosterone can cause you to have anger management problems. Is that your problem? just now going through puberty?Quote:
The thought that you even think you can try and spew this convaluted bs on the world and have some degree of influence makes me sick. Know something about the situation and the law, and for the love of god know something about RIGHT AND WRONG before you try to cause someone to be perceived in a way that puts their freedom at risk. You should be ashamed of yourself.
It's your story, tell it how you want. Oh, so now you admit YOU are the guy with the anger management problem. and no, read about the immunity afforded a DA as long as he reasonably believes his actions are justified.Quote:
What on earth do you think you are talking about kid? I deleted that because I decided it was too speculative to try and guess your identity by your irrational will to try and twist the facts and your comments as if you had knowledge regarding specific details of the case. I have no fear for threatening to do something that I am fully within my right to do (File a lawsuit for illegal charges, and bring attention to misconduct).
you have humiliated yourself by lying about who "A" is, the facts of the situation, and showing yourself to having anger management problems.Quote:
You, having completely humiliated yourself by misquoting law you posted directly above your misquote twice, and misquoting my statements 2 more times, are hardly in a position to talk.
I cannot misquote you when I cut and paste. Those were the words exactly as you typed them. If you have a problem with them, then it's time you yelled at the person you see in the mirror, not the person that points out your faults.
and just to remind you of how immature you are I will repost your threats to me:
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ut then, how could you possibly claim to know this without knowing any circumstances of the case? Now it is becoming clear. Let me make this perfectly clear. If you are who I think you are, and you attempt to pursue this matter I WILL COMPLETELY HUMILIATE YOU AND RUIN YOUR CAREER.
Threatening a person in my capacity will get you nowhere.Quote:
Lawsuits, news coverage, the works. With over half a million dollars and plenty of connections at my disposal when I need them, don't think for a second that I don't mean it.
Gridlocked Road Rager Shown a Bat, Results in Charges
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03-03-2010, 06:55 PMjkRe: Gridlocked Road Rager Shown a Bat, Results in Charges
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03-03-2010, 06:56 PMcitizenxoRe: Gridlocked Road Rager Shown a Bat, Results in ChargesI can't think of anything more humiliating then posting a law and going on a diatribe about how the law says defense of self not property when RIGHT ABOVE THAT THE LAW SAYS DEFENSE OF PROPERTYQuote:
Quoting Dogmatique
I can only imagine the DA making the same mistake and being equally humiliated in the court room. Maybe the DA will take the intelligent route of actually reading and obeying the law. -
03-03-2010, 07:14 PMjkRe: Gridlocked Road Rager Shown a Bat, Results in Chargesyou just keep believing yourself. Maybe you can wrangle that and the anger problem into a mental deficiency plea.Quote:
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03-03-2010, 07:14 PMcitizenxoRe: Gridlocked Road Rager Shown a Bat, Results in ChargesYou are misquoting in your claims about what I said after copying and pasting. The person started out in front, I pulled around after they sat there for around 30 seconds, then they jerked at my car. What is confusing about this? And in the real trial there will be a video of this, or a gaping whole where the video should be but instead mysteriously disappeared (presumably because it didn't help the DA's case) as there was a video camera pointed directly at the whole event. Because I know what really happened, I know the video supports my claim of self defense. If the DA had access to witnesses who saw the aggressive behavior of B, and this video, and the fact that I told the police I was threatened by the other driver, then filing charges would clearly be illegal given the clear statement of the law to this effect.Quote:
Quoting jk
Your inability (or perhaps unwillingess?) to comprehend what you read does not constitute me being a liar.
A was recently INTENTIONALLY RAMMED by another female driver, who, lo and behold, did not need to be rambo to press a gas pedal. A traffic problem is not someone jamming their car up your tail pipe in a threatening manner and leaning on the horn! You place a car based on the intensity of the car horn, and if the car horn sounds like it is going off in your back seat, and then you see the car moving even closer in the side view right above the "objects in mirror are closer than they appear" warning, you are going to panic and feel threatened.
I did not remove it because I felt it was too angry. I removed it because I was not sure. You are failing to differentiate between some kind of boundless rage (like that of a driver threatening another with a vehicle because they think the person cut them in line) and a feeling of empowerment that comes with seeing that something is clearly wrong and addressing it accordingly. Or the panicked reaction of someone who themselves feels threatened and cornered. And do not fool yourself, that is EXACTLY what happened.
I was addressing the misquotes you wrote after the "cut and pastes".
The part about this that I find the most deeply sickening of all is how the justice system is so well trained to take a situation like this, which the law clearly calls self defense, and twist everything that happened in hopes of confusing the person involved out of using the defense. -
03-03-2010, 07:27 PMDogmatiqueRe: Gridlocked Road Rager Shown a Bat, Results in ChargesQuote:
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Betcha between a couple of us, we could write this script for L&O or something...
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03-03-2010, 07:38 PMjkRe: Gridlocked Road Rager Shown a Bat, Results in Chargeswhoa, just a minute ago you said she was never in front:Quote:
citizenxo;399670]You are misquoting in your claims about what I said after copying and pasting. The person started out in front
and now you are contradicting your own argument when you said you never said she was in front.Quote:
I never said she was in front. What are you talking about?
dang kid, make up your mind.
and you just keep changing the story. This doesn't bode well for you.Quote:
, I pulled around after they sat there for around 30 seconds, then they jerked at my car. What is confusing about this?
and you know it was on? Have you subpoenaed video? If not, don't count on it being there. The victim is enough to hang your butt. Well, that and your confession here that just might find it's way to the trial.Quote:
And in the real trial there will be a video of this, or a gaping whole where the video should be but instead mysteriously disappeared (presumably because it didn't help the DA's case) as there was a video camera pointed directly at the whole event.
IF. You haven't subpoenaed it and you have no idea if the prosecution has? Man, you better get off some of the "more than a half million dollars" and get your defense in gear. You are way behind and getting further all the time.Quote:
If the DA had access to witenesses who saw the aggressive behavior of B, and this video, and the fact that I told the police I was threatened by the other driver, then filing charges would clearly be illegal given the clear statement of the law to this effect.
No, you making contrasting claims 2 or 3 or 4 times makes you a liar.Quote:
Your inability (or perhaps unwillingess?) to comprehend what you read does not constitute me being a liar.
Oh, so now your defense is you have a terrible fear of little old ladies driving and they might ram you so you get to use lethal force to put them in their place. Wow, you really have some problems.Quote:
A was recently INTENTIONALLY RAMMED by another female driver, who, lo and behold, did not need to be rambo to press a gas pedal.
Up your tailpipe? You said she was about to hit your door and injure you. Now you say she was "up your tailpipe". Unless they move tailpipes, that would put her behind you.Quote:
A traffic problem is not someone jamming their car up your tail pipe in a threatening manner and leaning on the horn!
the "objects are closer than they appear" is on the right side view mirror. You claim she was on the drivers side. Are you lying again? and the horn sounding like it is going off in the back seat? I thought you said she was taking a bead in the front door? Now, again, it appears she was near the rear of your car. Man, pick a story and stick with it.Quote:
You place a car based on the intensity of the car horn, and if the car horn sounds like it is going off in your back seat, and then you see the car moving even closer in the side view right above the "objects in mirror are closer than they appear" warning, you are going to panic and feel threatened.
Oh, so now you are claiming you kept the bat as a weapon due to little old ladies that drive aggressively. Man have you got some problems going on there. Maybe some medical attention is in order.Quote:
I did not remove it because I felt it was too angry. I removed it because I was not sure. You are failing to differentiate between some kind of boundless rage (like that of a driver threatening another with a vehicle because they think the person cut them in line) and a feeling of empowerment that comes with seeing that something is clearly wrong and addressing it accordingly. Or the panicked reaction of someone who themselves feels threatened and cornered. And do not fool yourself, that is EXACTLY what happened.
How could those be misquotes? Do you know what a quote is? What was cut and pasted was a quote. What followed was my statement. It was not a quote of anything.Quote:
I was addressing the misquotes you wrote after the "cut and pastes".
well, self defense or simply admitting guilt. I would try self defense as well. You obviously have a better shot of being found not guilty if you mount a defense. If you admit guilt, well..you are guilty.Quote:
The part about this that I find the most deeply sickening of all is how the justice system is so well trained to take a situation like this, which the law clearly calls self defense, and twist everything that happened in hopes of confusing the person involved out of using the defense.
I just don't accept your justifications for self defense and I seriously doubt the jury will either.
btw: if this was a really big guy in the other car, I might have some sympathy for you but the fact it was a woman, tsk, tsk, tsk. You should be ashamed of yourself. There are not many women in this world that I would feel threatened enough by that I would feel the need for a baseball bat. -
03-03-2010, 07:43 PMcitizenxoRe: Gridlocked Road Rager Shown a Bat, Results in Charges
She wasn't in front during the confrontation, as I was obviously stating. Are you really this terrible at comprehending things that you read? Or do you think you are going to fool a competent jury into thinking that you are not totally full of it when you say things like that? The only thing squabbling over meaningless misinterpretations of details is going to do is make you look dishonest. If anything from here shows up at trial, the jury is going to know who is on the other end of the discussion, and how dishonest and incompetent that person is.
A friend of A's that works at the parking deck is the one who alerted us to the video's existence, and yes the video was on to monitor rush hour traffic exiting the deck. This person is fully aware of what happened, and offered to help in any way she can. A's lawyer assures the subpoenae is in the works. Trying to get rid of evidence of something like because it doesn't help the case is a crime if I am not mistaken.
Little old ladies? Ok... did you not realize that Abe and Beatrice were stage names?
No contradicting statements were made. You made absurd claims, quite in line with your inability to read laws you post 2 inches above your summary of them, about what I said. None of your claims were true or even remotely addressed what I said.
My god draw a picture if you are having that much trouble visualizing. Does your side view have tunnel vision or something? In the beginning she was on the front side. In the end she was on the rear left side of the car. The car moved during the encounter. You did know cars could do that right? Who do you think you are fooling?
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03-03-2010, 07:48 PMjkRe: Gridlocked Road Rager Shown a Bat, Results in ChargesI jsut don't know what to believe anymore. One time you say she got in front of you. Then you say she was never in front of you. Then you again say she was in front of you. Now you do not deny she was in front of you but during the confrontation, where she clearly was in front of you and then you cut her off, she was no longer in front of you.Quote:
=citizenxo;399684]She wasn't in front during the confrontation, as I was obviously stating. Are you really this terrible at comprehending things that you read?
Wow. the jury is just going to love hearing your story.
You are the one that changed whether she was in front of you or not several times. I merely quoted your words.Quote:
Or do you think you are going to fool a competent jury into thinking that you are not totally full of it when you say things like that?
and you are looking really dishonest right about now...Quote:
The only thing squabbling over meaningless misinterpretations of details is going to do is make you look dishonest.[
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03-03-2010, 08:04 PMcitizenxoRe: Gridlocked Road Rager Shown a Bat, Results in ChargesQuote:
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The only person the jury would perceive as an idiot is you. I state something with 100 % clarity and then you ramble to yourself for 20 minutes about in front not in front to the side etc. You are not fooling anyone. None of this is even remotely important when there were several witnesses and a video. Even if there was no video, (which I know for a fact there better be or someone is going to be in deep doo doo for getting rid of it) a simple diagram would prevent any confusion.
If some fool like you came up to me on the stand and started asking me ridiculous questions like "You said behind but now ... front er?", the jury would laugh their butts off when I simply pointed out that cars have engines and can move from point A to B. -
03-03-2010, 08:16 PMjkRe: Gridlocked Road Rager Shown a Bat, Results in ChargesI love it.Quote:
Quoting citizenxo
It's not important since there is a video but even if there isn't a video.
If you don;t know now if there is a video, you are lost.
If the video was made by a private entity (as in non-governmental) they have no duty to retain the video for any period of time unless they are ordered by the court to retain it. If that has not been done yet, there is nothing to prevent the owner from deleting it.
Even if it was done by a governmental agency, there may not be any requirement to retain a copy for any specific length of time.
and a diagram; ya, that's the answer. You presenting a diagram is you presenting a diagram. It's not like they have to accept that any more than they accept your story. It is simply you telling your story with pictures. It is still your point of view, your perspective. It can help describe the situation but if they don't believe you, all the drawings in the world aren't going to make any difference.
You sound a like a 15 yo kid that thinks he rules the world. The witness doesn't handle anything. You answer questions when asked. You keep your mouth shut when not asked a question. If you speak when not spoken to, the prosecutor asks the judge to tell you to shut up. You don't make the rules and you surely don't "handle" the prosecutor.Quote:
If some fool like you came up to me on the stand and started asking me ridiculous questions like that, I know exactly how to handle them