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  • 04-15-2006, 02:06 PM
    troubledand concerned
    Company database for shoplifters
    Does Target input names of shoplifters on a database for all national retailers? What if you are not convicted? Doesnt that seem extreme for a dismissal to follow you around forever? I respect the job of loss prevention but many retailers cant see that sometimes mistakes are made. If the cashier doesnt see something in your cart and you do not your on a database as a thief?
  • 04-15-2006, 02:36 PM
    troubledand concerned
    I just read that many companies now use a database called Esteem to input names of accussed shoplifters even if they are not convicted into a database for other companies to see if they are doing backgraound checks. I can not believe that an LP can now have the power to brand a scarlett letter!
  • 04-15-2006, 07:38 PM
    LP1186
    That doesn't seem right. I am bound by a confidentiality agreement and cannot divulge any information about any incident to anyone! The only possibility i can see is that they input your information into their database that is only accessable by LP departments who work for that company and is only used to catch people who are violating thier criminal trespass. This way if someone who is caught shoplifting at one store doesn't go across town and try to shoplift there as well.
  • 04-16-2006, 02:57 AM
    troubledand concerned
    The name of the website is esteemnet.com and it states right on the website that it is a theft national database.
  • 04-16-2006, 04:10 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    The site itself indicates that it describes shoplifting prosecutions.
  • 04-16-2006, 04:45 AM
    troubledand concerned
    Yes, I saw that but being prosecuted or charged is different from being convicted and thats what I dont understand.
  • 04-16-2006, 07:59 AM
    LP1186
    All court procedings are matter of public record, so there is no problem with creating a database on court cases...
  • 04-16-2006, 01:03 PM
    ajwlpdude
    Quote:

    Quoting LP1186
    That doesn't seem right. I am bound by a confidentiality agreement and cannot divulge any information about any incident to anyone! The only possibility i can see is that they input your information into their database that is only accessable by LP departments who work for that company and is only used to catch people who are violating thier criminal trespass. This way if someone who is caught shoplifting at one store doesn't go across town and try to shoplift there as well.

    I have to agree with you there. And scrolling down you mention the public records in which everyone can see if the seek it... I don't really see private or even publically traded "big box" markets contributing to an outside database. Its against MOST companies policies...
  • 04-16-2006, 04:04 PM
    FrankieFigs
    If you sign an admission statement your name and SS# is entered into the database and it will flag when most retailers/employers do a background check on you. Even if you weren't prosecuted for it, it will still flag. When the employer runs the check, it will not tell them what you did, it simply states reccomend or do not reccomend for hire. Most employers will let you dispute a background check if it comes back do not reccomend. If you dispute it however, it will come out that you were caught shoplifting. By the way, it is mainly retailers and banks that use this system, most other types of employers do not.
  • 04-17-2006, 12:08 PM
    troubledand concerned
    Can you send a copy of the expungement to this database to stop public records of the incident?
  • 04-21-2006, 07:15 PM
    FrankieFigs
    It is technically not a criminal background, so as far as I know, it cannot be expunged. It is simply a databse of people apprehended. I do not believe there is a way to get your name off of the list.
  • 04-22-2006, 02:42 PM
    bam!
    They will take your name off seven years after the date of the admission. If you call them up, they will mail you a copy of the admission you signed and the referal they gave to the company,

    People use APIS, Choicepoint, Esteem etc...all national databases most retailers use. So, if you dont want to work retail for seven years after the admission you have nothing to worry about.
  • 08-02-2006, 09:28 AM
    nirav34
    Re: Company database for shoplifters
    Quote:

    Quoting FrankieFigs
    If you sign an admission statement your name and SS# is entered into the database and it will flag when most retailers/employers do a background check on you. Even if you weren't prosecuted for it, it will still flag. When the employer runs the check, it will not tell them what you did, it simply states reccomend or do not reccomend for hire. Most employers will let you dispute a background check if it comes back do not reccomend. If you dispute it however, it will come out that you were caught shoplifting. By the way, it is mainly retailers and banks that use this system, most other types of employers do not.

    How do you know banks use this system? I am an Investment Banker and had made mistake before of shoplifting. I just want to know this won't get in the way of me getting a job.
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