Got a Ticket, but Cop Didn't Have LIDAR Details

My question involves a traffic ticket from the state of: California

Hey guys, great advice on this forum.

Recenlty I got a unsafe speed ticket, via speed trap. However I was going the opposite direction of the trap and the officer pulled me over and wrote a ticket for 60mhp in a 45 zone and marked that he used Laser on the citation.

They officer stated I was going faster than 60mhp, but was unable to tell me truthfully how fast I was really going (making me believe he didn't have LIDAR readings). I was going the opposite direction of where the LIDAR was pointed, I'm pretty sure that he didn't get my speed via the LIDAR, although he circled it on the citation.

Do I have a good chance to fight this? If so, I'm going to fight TBWD and get a discovery to see what his notes say...

TIA!!!

You were probably cited with 22350... right??

If so, you want to keep his lidar data. Take a look at VC 40802 for the real definition of speed trap.

You should obtain the speed survey for the highway you were cited on. Call CALTRANS if it was a state road.

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Quoting EWYLTJ

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You were probably cited with 22350... right??

If so, you want to keep his lidar data. Take a look at VC 40802 for the real definition of speed trap.

You should obtain the speed survey for the highway you were cited on. Call CALTRANS if it was a state road.

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hi
yes that is correct, 22350. I'm going to get an informal discovery which will hopefully have the data I will need including the speed survey before I attempt to fight this case.

Get the speed survey on your own. You will likely be ignored with your IDR.

so now the opposite direction defense has been abandoned?

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Quoting THEAMAZINGCHAN

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so now the opposite direction defense has been abandoned?

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Well, you burst that bubble in the other thread! :)

Well,

I got the discovery, it included the survey (not sure what this does), lidar cert (up to date), and the officer's notes.

The note is hardly legible, but it does not say anything about tagging me with a lidar.

Can anyone help me make this out:

http://i34.tinypic.com/4gn7yo.jpg

I'm not sure how to proceed to build a defense.

How old is the survey & what does it say?

it was from 2008, but im not sure what i need to look out for. it did say posted speed was changed from 50 to 45

You need to look for the section of road that is listed as the location of offense on your ticket (not where you were stopped or where you think you got caught). Determine what the "critical speed" or the "85th percentile speed" is. The posted speed limit should be no higher than the 5mph increment that is closest to the critical speed. If it is higher, then it constitutes a speed trap unless specifically justified. Let us know what it says... or better, post a copy of it.