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  • 08-16-2009, 10:37 PM
    blueeagle
    Police Tased a Defenseless Woman in Front of Her Children
    http://www.theagitator.com/2009/08/1...-traffic-stop/

    Welcome to America...
  • 08-18-2009, 01:44 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Police Tased a Defenseless Woman in Front of Her Children
    Taser abuse seems to be becoming an issue in every country that issues them to the police. No, I'm not generalizing the bad conduct to all officers, and sometimes "the other side of the story" makes something that seems clear-cut suddenly less so; but there's a certain type of person who is drawn to police work for the wrong reasons, or ends up in an inappropriate mental state after 'burning out', and some of them nonetheless get to carry a badge.
  • 08-21-2009, 12:40 AM
    blueeagle
    Re: Police Tased a Defenseless Woman in Front of Her Children
    This one is even worse.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBtxN...eature=related

    I doubt decent person could watch this without feeling some hatred and animosity towards the sick pig who harmed this 72 year old great grandmother. He's the one who belongs in jail!

    Since when does a country that was founded on the principles of liberty and justice condone harming the elderly?
  • 08-24-2009, 08:53 AM
    ashman165
    Re: Police Tased a Defenseless Woman in Front of Her Children
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    This one is even worse.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBtxN...eature=related

    I doubt decent person could watch this without feeling some hatred and animosity towards the sick pig who harmed this 72 year old great grandmother. He's the one who belongs in jail!

    Since when does a country that was founded on the principles of liberty and justice condone harming the elderly?

    What do either of those principles necessarily have to do with immunizing the elderly against harm? Now, if they were targeted for harm for being elderly, I'd see your point. But in a general sense, merely being old doesn't imply lawful conduct or good nature. Nor does it mean they won't get harmed while being arrested. Granted, their less likely to be a threat in a wrestling match, but old folks can carry guns and pepper spray just as well as anyone else. Indeed, some of them might be better aims after many years of target practice. =P

    Anyway, back to this issue; I think this is telling:
    '"There may be many viewers upset we deployed a taser," Sgt. Maj. Griffin said, "But she made a very simple interaction with police, a very difficult task."' Apparently, if the task is sufficiently difficult, the Taser is the immediate solution. As we saw, this officer is quite diminutive and incapable of overpowering this woman because of his small, fragile stature. Clearly, the way she shoved him that far with little effort justified it. Or, perhaps the Taser should really be that low on the use of force algorithm: non-compliant, time to tase.
  • 08-24-2009, 11:15 AM
    ashman165
    Re: Police Tased a Defenseless Woman in Front of Her Children
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    I have to agree with the police. While true they didn't HAVE to tase her, I would have done the same thing if my life could have been in danger.

    Indeed. That woman who was unarmed, whom he was demonstrably able to move about with little effort against her will was indeed a threat to his life. Any agreement with his decision to use potentially lethal force against a woman who wasn't armed and who was incapable of mounting any considerable ability to resist him is clearly well-reasoned, rational and totally supported by reality.

    His life was in greater danger by his standing partially in the motorway than it was from her kicking his butt. His life, roughly equally to hers incidentally, was in greater danger by being simply between his car and hers than it was from any ability she had to threaten it.
  • 08-24-2009, 04:11 PM
    ashman165
    Re: Police Tased a Defenseless Woman in Front of Her Children
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    I'm unclear how anyone could come to the opinion that the officer is "diminutive and incapable of overpowering this woman because of his small, fragile stature." I'm not sure which video this quote applies to but in both cases it seems the officers are large men who tower over the women.

    I have the utmost respect for the police and what they do but it seems there is no accountability. I don't argue that she made a very simple interaction with the police a very difficult task, that is quite evident from the video. The speed at which conventional methods were abandoned and a weapon was drawn, is what I find alarming.

    I think you're not properly obeying the punctuation in my post. The quotation stops, oddly enough, where the quotation marks end. After that is my own text, which in that particular sentence was facetious. I hope this clears it all up.
  • 08-24-2009, 04:15 PM
    blueeagle
    Re: Police Tased a Defenseless Woman in Front of Her Children
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    I have to agree with the police. While true they didn't HAVE to tase her, I would have done the same thing if my life could have been in danger.

    He cops life was never in danger! Neither one of those women posed any threat to either officer! Only a coward assault a women or an elderly person!

    You make me sick.
  • 08-24-2009, 06:15 PM
    blueeagle
    Re: Police Tased a Defenseless Woman in Front of Her Children
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    His life was in greater danger by his standing partially in the motorway than it was from her kicking his butt. His life, roughly equally to hers incidentally, was in greater danger by being simply between his car and hers than it was from any ability she had to threaten it.

    Very true. Plus, this women never once made any kind or threat or offered any physical resistance!

    I don't understand why this old lady was arrested in the first place. In Texas, you cannot be arrested for speeding unless you are driving at least 30 miles over the limit. And it's not like she took him on a high speed chase.

    The police officer who tased this grandma needs to be thrown in jail for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and false imprisonment!

    Let me get this strait, the defenseless granny gets thrown in jail for speeding. As I stated before, unless an individual is speeding in excess of 30 miles over the speed limit or endangering the public, speeding is punishable by fine only.

    Now this trigger happy officer commits aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and false imprisonment. Agg. assault with a deadly weapon is a 2nd degree FELONY which is punishable by 2-30 years in PRISON. False imprisonment is a Class B misdemeanor which is punishable by up to 160 days in jail.

    Hmmm... who's the greatest threat to public safety? An old granny who was in a hurry to finish her grocery shopping, or a violent thug who assaults old people?
  • 08-28-2009, 02:26 PM
    ashman165
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    I'm sure this lady did a little more than she said. They don't tase people for no reason. And you never get out of the car and put a police officer in a threatening position....

    Oh no: not another the police tased me for doing nothing when I was actually doing something and lied about it despite it being on video so you can see it for yourself conspiracy theorist!
  • 08-28-2009, 04:02 PM
    blueeagle
    Re: Police Tased a Defenseless Woman in Front of Her Children
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    I'm sure this lady did a little more than she said. They don't tase people for no reason. And you never get out of the car and put a police officer in a threatening position....

    Police don't assault people for no reason? Tell that to those two women! Did you even watch the videos? The whole thing was recorded!!! I have shown you proof that the police officers used excessive force. Are you to stupid to click on the link? You're a dumbass.
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